Hey guys, I'll post what I've dug up about this scammer as soon as I can, which should hopefully be within a couple of days. BTW, Darth, the scam could very likely be an effort to get e-mailers to open an attachment (escrow agreement or something similar) as it is to scam money from somebody. Although I doubt you need to be warned not to open an attachment from a stranger (let alone somebody you know to be a crook), I just wanted to give you a heads up just incase you had a brain fart.
LOL...! Dave's computer luck is the worst...! He goes through a new computer every month. If there's a chance that someone sent him a virus, he'll open it...! Sorry to see that someone's running a scam using your car, Jeff. I hope he gets what he deserves. Other than that, you have a beautiful car...!
Go Darth go! These things really tick me off. BTW, I wonder when we'll see the first legit 599 go for less than MSRP.
I love these kind of threads where people mess with the scammers, There was this scammer on NSX prime trying to scam someone and they went all out on the guy, They got a fake telephone recording, fake website and the scammer believed this. Here is the thread http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104987
Something's better than nothing...... I am sorry to announce that the owner doesn't accept using another escrow service, after being reassured pre-sale we would use the one which we have been trusting for the last two years. Again, if you can come to trust CTS Capital we have no problem selling the car to you, and I think we can get the owner to accept only 1/2 deposited in escrow with the balance due upon successfully completing inspection. Derek
Let's see what this brings....... Derek, OK, Thank you for the concession, that means a lot. Please provide me with some background info (outside the website), banking and legal references on CTS Capital for me to follow up on. I suppose I will be able to see my way clear to doing it your way if I can raise my comfort level a little bit. It's a sizeable amount of money, even half. Other than that, let me know by the open of business tomorrow so we can move forward and I can see the car. Is there anyone else as far along as I am or will she be mine?
Someone needs to call & ask for Derek, or at least ask about the ad posted with their company name. Central Auto Sales 828 N Virgil Ave, Los Angeles - (323) 663-4848 Central Auto Sales 1448 W Jefferson Blvd, Los Angeles - (323) 734-2363
First, get his wire instructions for escrow. If it is in a US Bank, and he answers your e-mail, I can check this out for you very quickly. If it is offshore, then he is a scammer. (Actually, we already know he is a scammer, but we want him to know that we know he is a F*ck.) Second, ask him for his attorney's number. Again, we can check this out. You can go to any state and see if his bar card is current. Third, send him the VIN and tell him that the owner contacted you directly, and you think his commission is in jeopardy. Then call back and act like you are the owner and chew his ass out. Fourth, if he gives you wire instruction and suggests you send him money, then he has committed wire fraud. Print those correspondences and send it to the US attorney's office. GO GET 'EM!
I would love to see this scammer get prosecuted but it will be unlikely because he is in another country, But some country's police forces are working hard to take down these type of operations and are busting these crime rings.
For those not familiar with financial scams, this may seem strange, but google the term "bank guarantee." Or you guys can google bank guarantees and ABN Amro bank--all common scam wording. Tell him you will give him a bank guarantee for $600,000, drawn on ABN AMRO Bank. Tell him that after you inspect the car, he can keep the price of the car and one half of the extra $300,000 as his fee, because you bought this BG (Bank Guarantee) for 50 cents on the dollar. However, first, you need him to send you $10,000 to pay the SWIFT fee (or lawyer;s fee, or banker's fee, or whatever you want to make up) before you can send the BG. Upon receipt of $10,000, you will turn loose the BG to his company and do the transaction. These as*holes will never stop. They keep scamming and scamming.
That's good but I'm trying to egg him on and get the wire info..... This is what I sent: Derek, I trust all is OK with you? I am a bit surprised that I didn't hear from you today. I'd like to know what the story is and where to wire funds to open this escrow. I realize this car is priced to sell and I now know that some other folks of means are looking at it and maybe even talking to you and I don't want to lose it. I want to hear from you. Thank you --------------------------- ******** pathetic!
Friend of mine was playing around with one of these scammers. It was one of those, "I'll mail you a check, you deposit it, when it clears you mail me back 20%" Obviously the check is no good.... So my friend had a PO Box, has the guy overnight the mail (cost to scammer) then he waits and waits, gives the guy the run around via email, arguing over the percentage cut, making it seem like he is going to just keep the cash.... Finally he tells the scammer that he is going to western union him the money. Guy shows up, no money. Pissed, cause it wasted his time. Asks for a tracking number...friend gives him a fake one, he goes back, again pissed! So my friend gets a Western Union slip, photoshops it to look legit, scans it in, emails it to him...guy goes AGAIN to western union and looks like an idiot! Kinda ended after that....