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The Enzo reimagined.... Jim's Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina

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  1. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 23, 2002
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    There's a huge difference in a car the value of a car that did well in a major race and one that didn't. This also raised other questions about how much of the car was original and how much wasn't. Doug Nye knows the whole story and I believe is the person who raised the questions.
     
  2. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I understand the value of a race pedigree among cars when there are a good number made (even among the 36 GTOs), I just wondered how much of a difference it made with a car of this rarity. My though was that the concerns about the car went deeper. If Mr Nye had questions I bet there were some legitimate concerns. Someday we'll hear "The rest of the story".
    Thanks.
     
  3. big.bryant

    big.bryant Formula Junior

    Sep 17, 2008
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    Yeah from what i have heard from different sources, is the race history issue. however, since this is the only one that will be up for sale (i believe there are two and audi has the other one) shouldn't it still command huge sums of money?
     
  4. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    #5429 Napolis, Jan 10, 2009
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  5. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Jim Glickenhaus
  6. Michiel Mobiel

    Michiel Mobiel Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2006
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    Michiel van den Brink
    You could have met the yellow sister car on the right then! ;)
     
  7. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    :)
     
  8. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 23, 2002
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    Looks like a P 4/5 sandwich with 002C in the middle...
     
  9. WJHMH

    WJHMH Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #5434 WJHMH, Jan 13, 2009
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  10. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 23, 2002
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    1. My car is not an Enzo.

    2. It's a 612 P 4/5 as it's plate says.

    3. As I live in NY and we can get Custom plates for $45 I'm not sure that a UK plate would be of much use.
     
  11. thepinkumbrella

    thepinkumbrella F1 Veteran

    Feb 26, 2006
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    Jim,

    I've been meaning to ask you this for a while...
    This quote taken from the very first page of this thread:

    Are you referring to the then un-born California or your acquisition of the little yellow one?

    Best regards,

    Paul
     
  12. AustinMartin

    AustinMartin F1 Veteran

    Mar 1, 2008
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    Wish they were that cheap in California!
     
  13. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    The California. At that time I had no idea that I'd be able to acquire Dino Competizione.
     
  14. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Yeah, here in Queensland we pay AU $2200 for custom plates. :(:(
     
  15. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #5440 Napolis, Jan 25, 2009
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  16. need4speed

    need4speed Formula 3

    Nov 3, 2003
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    Pacific Palisades
    Jim,

    You can't tease us like that. Where's a clear shot? :)
     
  17. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    #5442 Napolis, Jan 25, 2009
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  18. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 10, 2005
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    Pap
    Great shot!! :):)
     
  19. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    :)
     
  20. fou

    fou Formula 3

    Feb 1, 2007
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    Call me the breeze
    Nice chatting with you briefly. Best
     
  21. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    Thanks!
     
  22. fastback33

    fastback33 Formula 3

    Mar 8, 2004
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    Jim is the rear window made of glass, or some kind of plastic?
     
  23. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 23, 2002
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    Fighter Cockpit Poli Carbonate.
     
  24. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Polycarbonate. The particular blend used on the hatch of your car was formulated for heat resistance.

    What you have is a blend of old stuff. Not to burst your bubble, but the stuff forming the canopy on the F-22 in no way resembles what is covering your engine.

    There are lots and lots of polycarbonites out there, from eye glass quality to something that can withstand sustained +mach without any iota of deformation.

    But to think that the materials used on the rear hatch of your car is in any way = anything used on a modern day aircraft gives me pause. Modern poly carbonates alone would have trebled the cost of your car, and this just for a few areas, with all of those areas being secret.

    But yeah, it sounds cool to state that your car has the same tech as a fighter jet.

    On the flip side, I can't go down to NAPA and get the same stuff that your hatch has, so maybe that's pretty cool.

    :)
     
  25. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    The company that made it also makes Jet Canopies and said they used the same Mil Spec. materials. It's speed rated to VMAX of the car which is 233 MPH can take enormous aerodynamic forces including massive engine heat on one side, air flow on both sides, up to 1000 lbs of down-force at 160 MPH on the outside, is totally distortion free and hasn't scratched yet including many high speed laps on the sandy Bahrain F1 circuit. As for cost I'm not sure NAPA caries items that cost 30K Euros.
     

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