1959 196 Sport Dino...

Whoa. What is that thing? Definatley not a 196S

 

Q. Most race cars are?

A. RT hand drive

or

Lt hand drive?

 

Regardless, its a beautiful car.

kcv

 

I'd still like it!

Rob, if you're not interested, I very well might be. Send them my way, please.

For whatever it's worth, here's another 196 "re-creation":
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com/autoForSale.php?auto=35

 

http://www.barchetta.cc/english/All.Ferraris/Detail/0776.196S.htm

 

It is red

 

Most recreation arent worth more than 200 000$ . But they usually look good or at least similar to the original car which is not the case here IMO .

I would only pay for the engine . The italian built recreation is not worth much.

 

I think these cars done right cost more to build than you can sell them for.
Done right is key. Remember if something breaks your heading to the machine
shop to build a part. If you ding the body your looking at 10K+. The motor is another issue.

As an aside Lee Holman built a GREAT TR replica on a 330 chassis which he might sell.

 

The link I posted above didn't sell at (I believe) the RM auction that got bid up to $130,000, although the seller was only asking $139,999 for a private sale.

Also, has anyone seen this website?
www.motorima.com

--Matt

 

Rob
If you're serious you have to test drive it first. If they got the suspension geometry wrong it will be a mess.

 

In 1959 Eric "Ockelbo" Lundgren took molds out of 500 Mondial 0580/MD in order to give 500 Mondial 0408/MD a new life - literally beaten to death ice racing. Besides rebuilding 0408/MD with a new GRP body (gazillion times reported to be a genuine GRP-prototype by Scaglietti - heh heh!) Lundgren built two or three dozens of replica bodies, which he then sold to anyone who wanted to build a homebrew sportscar. Soon Ockelbo-Ferraris were rolling everywhere on Swedish roads using various chassis and engines. I've sometimes played with the idea of buiding a photo gallery of all Ockelbo-Ferraris I've found so far. As you can imagine Swedish press of the day loved these cars; GRP was a sexy new material and there was a huge demans on DIY-articles on how to build a boat of your own...

Time to stop rambling: the red car with white stripe on Motorima-site is an old Ockelbo-body using Alfa drivetrain.

The original molds were found years later too but were already beyond point of no return. Even so Ockelbo still lives on - Pagano is based on molds taken from one of the original Ockelbo-bodies.

http://www.pagano.se/frame.html

500 Mondial 0408/MD has recently (a few years back) been rebodied back into original... er design... so one more Ockelbo body may be looking for a new home outside Sweden.

At first look this "196 Sport Dino" looks quite similar, but basic form is slightly different - and that's hard to change in GRP - and it definitely would have been changed into worse (what else could it be, Ockelbo's being an exact copy of original Scaglietti design!!!).

Ok, the car in first posting is a fake. How much do you know about it? What type of engine is it using? Built on Ferrari donor chassis or something else?

Usually all fake "Dinos" are based on home built tube frames, a Fiat engine and are not worth a second look....

Best wishes, Kare

 

Since others think that it's "not worth a second look", I will gladly give $2500 for that "fake" and haul it home. If anybody doesn't like that fact that it's a "fake", then they can go buy the real thing.

 

I'm just saying "fake" because Kare referred to it as a "fake" in his postings and because it has a Ferrari logo on the front.
I went to that kit car website and looked at their car. I might have more respect for the kit if it weren't for that fact that they used square tubing in most of the framework. Most OLD race cars seemed to use round tubing, aka Bird Cage Maserati. Square tubing takes away from the vintage look.
Of course this is all based on the assumption that actually owning a real vintage Ferrari racer, whatever it might be, is a long shot for most of us.

I thought that car looked a little like a Scarab or a Devin, so I took that excuse to go browse http://www.tamsoldracecarsite.net/ which is always an interesting place. I ran across these two links to some interesting period photos of another Ferrari oldie.

http://www.tamsoldracecarsite.net/ZL31Ferrari375MM.html

http://www.alaskaseaplanes.com/Ferrari.html

 

Cool links Arlie!

Regards,

Art S.

PS. If you take the Ferrari badges off the car in the first post and put your own private label on it; it becomes a cool little homemade sportscar (assuming they got the suspension gemetry right!).