360f1 or manual

ZYMOL348,

I have had the pleasure of driving both F1 and manual trans in both a F355 and 360. I can't say I do not like the F1. It is fun and gives a different feeling of driving a Ferrari. You are correct in cost and possible issues. F1 is going to be more expensive to repair if something goes wrong. And as the system uses computers and electronics there is more that can go wrong.

I have heard of owners having problems with the F1 being stuck in neutral and they can't get it into gear. I have heard of owner's not being able to put it into neutral to start it. And yes anything involving figuring out what is wrong and repair is going to be expensive, nore so vs. manual.

I personal preference is to buy a manual. There is nothing like driving a manual Ferrari. The feel, the sound of the gate. When you make perfect down shifts. When you get all your shifts be it up or down correct and fast, it is thrilling. Manual trans makes me feel as though I am part of the process of driving the 360 not disconnected as the F1 makes me feel at times.

Guess I am old fashioned, I just love the manual. Best of luck.

Cheers,

 

zy.... i think i'm gonna go with simon as both my f-cars are regular manuals, the f1 really takes the fun out of driving. but if you spend most of your time on the track i would go for f1 (duh). but it's your call man as it's your ferrari

 

Dear Comrade Zymol 348,

It's certainly a good idea to keep the 348. But why not acquire a nice twelve cylinder car to go with it? Perhaps a Testarossa. Or if you can afford a 360, why not try a 512TR? Indeed, Steve f has an F512M which I understand to be in perfect condition.

As for automatic transmissions - why bother with something which is inherently unreliable? All my friends who possess 360's have them with the proper gearchange. However, it is true that they are experienced with the handling of high performance cars.

512 Tea Are

 

Zymol,

I would go with manual however if you want an F1 then you need to go with a post '03 car. The sofware was uprated and amde them much better than the earlier versions.

Philip

 

Having driven both, F1 for Me,the negative comments form People regarding F1(and I include myself till I bought one)are generally from People who have relatively little time with them,I was once told on this board that to really appreciate the F1 You have to have at least 1K miles with one,I agree with this as I have now done 4K with My 355 and I would never go back to a manual Ferrari,but it"s Your call you will love either of them.
Dave Mc

 

It is wrong to say that if you want to go fast buy F1 and if you want to shift you will go slower. That is bonkers.

Modern F1 cars do have F1 transmissions, but they also have a whole crew to rebuild and fix the car and any issues that come up from practice to race day. We don't. I have heard so many people ask about is this normal? Has this happened to you?

As I said before. I am not saying I do not like F1 trans. I just like manual better. And yes I have driven over a thousand miles in both F355 F1s and 360 F1s. And one of the statements made here is true. You do need to drive an F1 for awhile to determine this for yourself.

Best of Luck.

Cheers

 

here, here, I agree plus the manual gets in the way when i'm getting oral sex and driving at the same time

 

proper brucie bonus mate

 

Dear Comrade Stevep,

I regret to inform you that you have made a mistake in the spelling of 'oral.'

Aural sex is something which comes replete with the twelve cylinder orchestra found in proper ferrari's - not V8's with automatic gearboxes.

512 Tea Are

 

Aural sex is something which comes replete with the twelve cylinder orchestra found in proper ferrari's - not V8's with automatic gearboxes.


is aural not something that old timers with v12's do, ie just talk about it, i will endeavour to get both you and stevef out of your smoking jackets and into some proper sports cars, not heavy, v12's!!! Stimmers and myslef will race you for pinks if you like

fraternally

stevep

 

Dear Comrades Stimmers360 and Stevep,

Steve and I are above all this racing round tracks where there is nothing coming the other way. We drive on proper roads - with proper road going Ferrari's with wonderful twelve piece orchestra's - no doubt you boys have CD players installed?

With kind regards,

512 Tea Are - Tea Arse

 

aye but they go as slow as if you had a 12 piece orchestra in the back, i would be in 3rd gear by the time you had lit your panama and adorned the smoking jacket

 

Dear Comrade Steve M8,

I also wear a Panama hat to go with the Panama cigar. I have a Norfolk Jacket made from proper Harris Tweed tailored by E.C. Squires, 19 Clifford Street, Saville Row, London SW1. Which was made in nineteen seventy five.
And I am expecting the Twelve Piece Orchestra to also last indefinitely - just as the jacket shows every indication of doing. The eight cylinder V8 car which I had from Crewe in 1981 is equally obliging.

I suspect that little of the aforegoing will be applicable to the F1 clutch mechanism - which is a mere automotive fashion accessory. Also, the dreadful loads which it places upon the drivetrain is likely to cause all manner of problems as the cars become older.

 

Dear Comrade Zymol348 M8,

I am no expert on these matters but I understand that only one per cent of 360's are automatics. Which perhaps may prove that it could be the one per cent of Ferrari owners who are female who may go for the automatic version.
It may also be that they hang their handbags on the paddles. What a name for a Ferrari component: 'Paddles.'

 

Graham,

The F1 experience is great on the track...no betta, however for the regular road going guy....Its always gotta be the Stick shifter, as for the 12cyl .mmmm sorry its V8 m* every time.


Did you enjoy yr short break from us .. nice to see you back on with "DOUBLE" the wit!!!

;-)

 

Your gonna love the next gen cars. Early reports suggest the 430's will mostly be delivered with F1 trans. And some markets may not even get the manual option.

From casual observation it appears to me F1's hold there value better while in warranty at least. Wether that lasts after tales of out of warranty repair costs start circulating, I dont know.

 

Are the specialist's (Verdi... etc) able to work on F1 gearboxes?

 

Well will people pay the price tho

New carbon brakes, F1 trans and sports seats yr up at the 130k mark ???

 

Phil,

Karl can tackle these no prob!!!

 

Not according to the guides. The F1 box loses half its cost immediately and there is then a slower closing together. Nearly new F1 cars will therefore have a premium of just over £3k, with older ones closing to about £2.5k.

Therefore you will lose more if buying new but will retain the majority of the premium upon resale if you buy used.

Ken