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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by hetek, May 26, 2006.

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  1. hetek

    hetek Karting

    Aug 8, 2005
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    #1 hetek, May 26, 2006
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    ... from the kid's bicycle handlebars.

    I know alot of you have already "discovered" the secret before, but here's mine: Keep it well above their 2, 4 and 6 year old heads!

    Just installed the lift last week - by myself, solo. Not easy, but not impossible. Love it!

    Now the wife and kids say "Look at all that room for the bicycles, scooters, Tonka trucks..." I say "Go for it". At least you'll never scratch the car!
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  2. hetek

    hetek Karting

    Aug 8, 2005
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    Before I forget: "Not shown" is the padlock on the door so no one can open the garage door and crunch my tail lights when the car is up in the air.

    I have a high lift garage door track kit on order that should solve that problem.
     
  3. L8Braker

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    Awesome! Good looking setup. Where did you get it from?
     
  4. MufflerMan

    MufflerMan Formula 3

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    Glad to hear your going with the high lift kit. Part of the advantage to what you have there is being able to pull another car underneath which you cannot currently do. I myself am in the market for a drive on, how much was it all said and done?
     
  5. GCalo

    GCalo F1 Veteran

    Sep 15, 2004
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    So, what's your response now if someone asks if you can "give them a lift"?

    Great idea and is the way to go.

    Although I think my motto "No kids, no pets" is better.

    Then no bikes, no scrathches, and more cars!
     
  6. BT

    BT F1 World Champ
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    I would recommend removing the manual lock on the overhead door. I had someone playing with the manual lock on my garage door, and they left it locked. Then when I went to use the electric openere, voila, racked steel!
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  7. KennyH

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    Just be careful, one of my close friends (and an active Fchatter) had his Fcar fall off his lift..
     
  8. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    You need to have your garage door rails converted to the "ceiling hugger" type. That's what I did with mine and ity only cost about $250...that way you can raise and lower your garge door with the car up on the lift...
     
  9. hetek

    hetek Karting

    Aug 8, 2005
    141
    LI, NY
    I picked it up last Saturday at Greg Smith Equipment in Newark, Delaware. $1695 includes the lift, caster kit, drip trays and jack tray. I think I got the Hershey car show price. The "package" is 2' x 2' x 14' long. Best part is that Delaware has no sales tax and the only "shipping charge" was the trailer rental ($59) and my gas, tolls and time.

    The story goes: Friday night after work I rented the car trailer. Saturday morning at 6am I'm on the road. 4 1/2 hours later I'm looking at the lift in the showroom. 45 minutes later I'm loaded up and paid up and on the road home. I get to my house at 4pm. I pull the rig off the trailer and return the trailer with 5 minutes to spare. It was a long day but well worth it.

    Assembly wasn't too bad. I disassembled the crate in my side yard and dragged the runways around in the grass (they're heavy but they do slide) to get next to the garage door. Then I flipped them onto a furniture dolly and rolled them into place in the garage. The thing weighs 1500 lbs, total. I'm still trying to figure out how I did it by myself without blowing out my back. You can say I made full use of the mechanical advantage and leverage principles. Isn't physics fun?

    It took me about 10 hours, start to finish.
     
  10. bhuta

    bhuta Karting

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    Looks nice. Nice install job!!
     
  11. Lloyd

    Lloyd F1 Rookie

    Aug 25, 2001
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    Hetek, Please excuse my paranoia, but I am a personal injury attorney and see kids and people injured in a variety of ways. Many people don’t consider the fact that their garage door is one of the heaviest moving objects in their home and disable many of the safety features such as the electric eye. If they want to assume the risk as adults that is up to them, but if there are small children in the home it is irresponsible. You have now installed a device that can potentially cause even greater harm than a garage door. It is also the type of device which may have been designed for more of a commercial environment where the presence of children would not be anticipated. I would recommend to anyone installing one of these devices in a home with small children that they install some type of child proof pin lock or bar that will act as a safety to stop the device from descending when unattended. I would also recommend a keyed control panel which prevents activation of the device, either up or down, without the use of a key kept in the adult’s possession. Hopefully, such safety devices came with the product.

    The problem may not be as big of an issue to the family child, who has been taught to respect the device, but it may represent a hazard to one of their neighborhood friends who sees it as a big toy. (why, when I was a kid, I never blew up my best friend's house when we got into his dad’s gun powder, which he used for his shot gun shell loader, I’ll never know)

    I now stand ready to be beaten up by the tort reformers who see my paranoia as representative of the decline of western civilization. That’s okay; I would rather save some kids from serious injury.
     
  12. hetek

    hetek Karting

    Aug 8, 2005
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    Lloyd-

    Comments duly noted.

    I agree - And I also know how kids can be. Where there's a will, there's a way.

    First a note on operation: Each post has safety locks. Once the lift is up to the desired level, you lower it onto the safety lock. The cables at this point are not slack but have alot less tension than required to lift. In order to lower the car, you have to raise it first, push the lever that disengages the locks, then hold this lever while you open the pressure dump valve (allows the cylinder to bleed down). It's a two-hand operation - and the lock lever itself is over 6' off the ground.

    Part two is the fact that the electrical outlet is just out of reach of the power cord. I actually use a 3' air conditioner extension cord to plug into. When I'm not around, neither is the extension cord. Again, you cannot lower unless the lift is moved up off the stops first.

    Is it "rickety"? Will it fall? Even if all 4 stops were to break their welds and fall off, the lift is still supported by the cables. Will it tip over if pushed on? I will say that I pushed on each leg and felt no wobble even with the car 6' in the air, as shown in the photo. The posts with a car's weight on them are very stable.

    A key switch is an option I will persue. I have seen them offered. The door is now manual - no more opener. I needed the extra headroom so I removed the opener and trolley. No big loss.

    I agree - Kids will be kids.
     
  13. wetpet

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    my kids get the cattle prod if they go in my garage. they have their own "garage", it's called the shed.
     
  14. Lloyd

    Lloyd F1 Rookie

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    Hetek, it sounds like you've got a good plan to keep the kids from messing with it. (Wetpet, I have to admit that you're cattle prod approach does have its appeal, especially for that bratty neighbor kid)

    Just as another note, I have handled garage door cases and have talked to a lot of experts and one of the other common injuries results from customers installing their own door and getting their arm or some other other appendage taken off when they improperly tried to install and tighten the springs. One case they told me about involved a surgeon who lost his hand as a result of trying to install a door himself. There is a lot of power in one of these wound springs. If you are unfamiliar with the installation of garage doors be careful if you intend to install the door yourself.

    Maybe I should change my handle here from "Lloyd" to "Mom".
     
  15. wetpet

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    I installed my own door. you are right, winding up that spring was very scary.
     

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