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honey i wrecked the porsche

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by bobwass, Jun 15, 2007.

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  1. bobwass

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  2. venusone

    venusone F1 Rookie

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    Ok, there is no excuse for stupidity.
     
  3. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Dr. Haas (our own oil expert AE Haas, here) is a heart surgeon, not a plastic surgeon, IIRC..........

    His oil expertise is a spin off from his human cardio vascular work.......in fluid dynamics.

    He DID hit a wire spool though, it was discussed here at the time......
     
  4. lor2435

    lor2435 Formula 3

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    ummmmm....

    "Expensive sports cars have always been intimidatingly fast, but experts say the latest models are not just more powerful, they're also lighter: Ferrari's new 599 GTB Fiorano produces about .164 horsepower per pound -- a 21% improvement over the model it replaced."
     
  5. S Brake

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    Got a link? I wasn't able to find it.
     
  6. tomkandy

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    So this is a total non story? You are in fact three times less likely to crash a supercar than an average car.
     
  7. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    I dunno if I can find it either...they had to make him a new bumper it was off the road awhile......

    A shame he could not access Napolis's parts from the P4/5 project, a respray from red to yellow and he'd have been rollin' sooner!

    Look in Florida Section maybe it's down there.....
     
  8. Chiaro_Slag

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    If you did accident per mile, I am guessing the supercars would pull ahead. :)
     
  9. ZINGARA 250GTL

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    Of course there is. Just blame somebody else.

     
  10. ZINGARA 250GTL

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    Unless you have a cell phone in your ear, one hand on the wheel. and your meager mind somewhere else.

    QUOTE=tomkandy;136812906]So this is a total non story? You are in fact three times less likely to crash a supercar than an average car.[/QUOTE]
     
  11. Italian Lover

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    Doesn't matter which exotic cars, these modern cars are all computer chips controlled and they are so "drivable", meaning less feedbacks, and this gives many drivers false sense that they are in control and contribute to the imbalance of true driving skills/experiences and speed/power of these cars. Jimmy
     
  12. 285ferrari

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    I would love to have some of those cars wrecked--still worth more than my house!!!! :D
     
  13. SrfCity

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    "While the number of supercars registered in California is up sharply, the rate at which they are getting into accidents is still small -- just over 1% -- and hasn't changed appreciably since the state began breaking data down by make in 2002. (The statewide accident rate for all vehicles was 3%.)"

    I'm think'n it's safer to be driving in a super car :) A little exotic car bashing is an easy target and makes for a great story though ;)
     
  14. Italian Lover

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    The stats may be correct but probably one of the reasons because many of the owners simply do not DRIVE these expensive cars as much, mostly being pampered and kept in garages, especially F owners. Jimmy
     
  15. whart

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    I think you also have to factor in our increased tolerance to high speed. I'm not talking about the law or the morality of it, but the simple fact that modern cars, even ****boxes, go way faster, brake much better, and generally get up and go on a whole other level than production cars did 10 or 20 years ago.
    And frankly, alot of drivers are not up to the level of these cars, which have enormous safeguards built in:- it is pretty easy to see how somebody without alot of experience can get their ass handed to them in a CGT, or current Ferrari.
     
  16. willrace

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    I think it's not so much the lessened feedback, but the lessened Skill accumulated by the drivers, who have rarely, if ever, driven cars without so many Driver Aid Nannies. The Driver is one ultimately controlling those pedals down there, weighed against the yaw effects of that mysterious round thing in their hands.
     
  17. cosmicdingo

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    Can't remember the name of a dumbass Houston dentist who totalled a 130g Gemballa Porsche ON THE WAY HOME FROM THE DEALER. He hit a telephone pole going down a back street and basically peeled the right side of the car back to the engine bay, destroying a year's work from 20 or so talented craftsmen-- that's a ****LOAD of fillings and braces.
     
  18. DGS

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    Wow! Two Ferrari accidents in two years!!! Out of how many accidents total?
    Around here, there are three or four accidents in the commuting area every day.

    But if it's not a politically incorrect fun car, it's not news. :rolleyes:

    Don't get a life! You'll blow the "curve".
    ${DIETY} forbid you might accomplish something -- it'd make "everyone else" (e.g. the reporters) feel bad.

    Everyone must be equal: AKA: equally nothing.
    Egalitarianism or hiding in the middle of the herd?

    Which just gives them far more reserves above what you need for the street.

    A mechanic once asked why I keep the old Alfa, when I have a Ferrari.
    I told him, "Refresher training".

    I can drive the Ferrari (or the EVO or even the old Celica AllTrac) to work and back all year without ever getting near its limits. If I enter a corner sloppy, the car has enough reserves to compensate. (Until it snows.) You can pick up bad habits and still get away with it. Usually.

    Eventually, those habits will catch you out.

    The '79 Alfa has far lower limits. It's well tuned, but an old chassis design. And it talks to you. Loudly, at times. (The tires begin to chirp well short of the break loose point.) It clearly points out every flaw in your driving technique. So you can catch the errors before they bite you.

    By contrast, most modern cars (and virtually all SUVs) brag about "insulating" the owner. The first indication you get that you're doing it wrong is when you hit something --- or somebody.

    I say "owner", because modern commuter appliances don't have "drivers". Just passengers behind the wheel. To an alarming number of license holders, "drive" is a gear, not something you do.

    (What's really depressing is that, on the mismanaged cow paths around DC, traffic is so clumped up that even the Alfa doesn't get near its limits here.)

    ... or of a pedal car.

    That memo got lost it the yard mail.


    Ironically, back in the '70s/early '80s, my Alfa mechanic told me (warned me, I think) that many Alfas were getting wrecked --- not by the owners. The girlfriends would say, "what a cute car", and borrow it ... and not be ready for the "full immersion" driving experience.

    "Honey, I wrecked the Alfa". ;)

    What's really ironic is that I let my boss borrow the Alfa once for a trip across the base. He scared himself silly with it. He came back complaining that the Alfa was "too fast".
    His regular car: A porsche. (Well, sort of: a 914.)
     
  19. Brew

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  20. Bavarian Motorist

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    Accidents happen ALL THE TIME. Of course a percentage of those are going to be expensive cars. You wouldn't expect them to be under-represented, would you?


    I suppose you could argue that buyers of these cars are presumably more intelligent and want to protect their investments (if you can call a car an investment) but at the same time, they're usually really bad drivers.
     
  21. watt

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    stradales are stuffed all the time, as jamokes forget race mode requires care in the cold or wet, with cold tyres etc.

    my favourite story comes from Surf here on fchat -- he's gonna buy a guy's strad in Boston and the guy loses it on the way to get it ppi'd -- race mode, cold day, and regrets
     

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