328 Door Lock Actuators?

One of the nicest things I did to my old 308 was add keyless entry. I found a nice Crimeguard keyless-entry only (no alarm) unit from Crutchfield, and have since bought another for girlfriend's honda.

On the 308, I had to install actuators in each door.

On my (to be delivered) 328, I know the passenger door has an actuator, but I don't know for sure if the passenger door has an actuator.

I've read reports that some 328s can unlock the driver's door from the passenger side, but even on 328s that couldn't, this doesn't mean that there wasn't an actuator on the driver's door side...

Any ideas for sure?

Also, any ideas where the central door locking "brain" is located? I'll need to tap into it with keyless entry "brain" .

 

Dave, it is an extraordinary unit. Well designed. The controllers are an upgraded look/feel from those pictured on the Crutchfield site. I put this eystem in on my 308, then on the Honda as well. Well documented, lots of features, and very easy to use in practice. As picky as I am, I can find not one single complaint about the system or the remote controllers--it's just well engineered, and obviously is quite an evolved piece of equipment. Crutchfield, as a retailer, is much the same way--always top notch service.

This unit has "starter kill" capability, so has an anti-theft component to it useful for insurance.

It's $70, if I recall, and one of the nicest upgrades I had to the 308. Just think: no wear in the door locks, no stooping over (even for us short guys!) to unlock the doors, and no paint scratches around the door lock!

So, you're saying on your 328, the driver's door will unlock if you unlock the passenger door? What then, is the serial # of your car?

 

OK. So my 328 is #73651. Re: 308s, yeah, I was pretty sure the driver's door lock would never be a "slave" to the passenger.

But, on Dave's car, if I've understood correctly, the driver's door lock IS a slave to the passenger, and the passenger door lock a slave to the driver's, so that they're always in sync. If this is a case, then there is an actuator in both.

In the 308s with power door locks, it sounds like there may only be an actuator in the passenger's door, which can be verified by getting behind the door panels.


--Mike

 

Hmm... The question is, is there an ACTUATOR in your driver door?

In any case, it appears that there was a running change in the 328 line. At some point (maybe around s/n 70000-ish) it seems Ferrari made the two door locks sync'd up, and it's not an "1988.5" change.

--Mike

Can any other 328 owners report? Do I need to make a poll?

 

Honda did not need actuators, it had motors already built in.

On the 328, I replaced the door lock actuators with a more standard, 5-wire design that I could work with.

At the time, the alternative was to "piggyback" a modern actuator onto the driver's actuator, but I could not find a suitable place to install it. New actuators on the other hand went in in a matter of minutes. I even reused the wiring that led into the doors so did not have to rerun any new wiring.

In retrospect, I think with a lot of hours, the wiring diagram, and a multimeter, you could probably find a way to interface to the existing actuators, but my attempts to do so in a few hours could not provide anything workable. There are lots of relays involved and things get even more complex if you want driver door unlock priority (which I did). The existing actuators are a little strange, each has four wires and grounds/voltage are being swapped dynamically based on state of the locks, so that each actuator was also a switch for the other one, and there were a number of states to track, e.g. out-of-sync with master, etc.

Most straightforward solution is to replace the actuators, which is a fully reversible modification and the new actuators plug right in to the standardized drilling mounts (if I recall correctly).

The 456 may be different, though! You won't know till you actually get a look at the actuators. Are the 5 wire or 4 wire or...?

--Mike