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Basic freakin' punctuation on FerrariChat

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by kevfla, Sep 29, 2011.

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  1. kevfla

    kevfla Formula 3

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    While I am not an English teacher, currently or in a past-life, I'm amazed at how many of you don't have a grip on basic English punctuation. My biggest gripe are with posters that use an apostrophe when referring to a plural of something, ie. a group of Ferrari's.

    The apostrophe is used to connote possession (ie. "the Ferrari's clutch, the Ferrari's exhaust system, etc); or as a contraction (ie. "that's" as short for "that is").

    When you are referring to multiples, plural, just add a "s."
    When you refer to the years in a particular decade, again, just add a "s." For example, the decade preceding World War II, it's the "1930s," (1930, 1931, 1932, etc) not "1930's." Otherwise you are referring to that specific year, such as 1934's Time magazine's Man Of the Year.

    We all want to be successful in life, which includes working for a living, so you can afford that Ferrari. If you write-up your own resume and I'm interviewing you, bad grammar and/or punctuation is going to hurt your chances.

    This may seem trivial but if you are in the job market, you have to show you have an educated person's command of the language.

    Secondly, "payed" is not a word. Try spelling it "paid."

    Class dismissed.

    KevFla
     
  2. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    This from a guy who has a user name without punctuation or caps.

    KevFla? Nah, needs something more.

    C'mon dude, let's get some punctuation going there.

    Kev. Fla.

    Which of course should be Kev. FL without punctuation at all behind the FL.

    Oh, and how about hyphens? We could toss one in for you and you'd be Kev-FL, or Kev-Fla.

    Perhaps a colon? Kev:FL Except that could connote a ratio of Kev to FL and who the hell would know what that means.

    Oh, wait, I know. we need to insert an ampersand. Kev&Fla, nah, too lumpy.

    Well, I gave it a shot.

    Please note that generally this post is properly punctuated, tensed and constructed, although not in its entirety. :D


    DM
     
  3. Horse

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    You'd LOVE the Australian section. :)
     
  4. Glassman

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    If I said what I'm thinking right now I'd be perma-banned.
     
  5. agup48

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    Yet most of the men and women here are already employed or own their own business. ;)

    It's a forum, what do you expect? Perfect, well-written novels? :rolleyes:
     
  6. ernie

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    Awe yes, the guy wiht the pet peeve abuot seplling and pnuctautoin. I do tihs wenh ever it coem's up. The biarn can sort out msot wrod's so lnog as the frist and lsat leettr's are in the cerroct palce. So tkae a chill pill, most peepol unsterdan taht teh ohter preson is jsut tpying fsat.

    Bey hte wya, my spell cechk was gion nut's.

    LOL!!!!!

    "Lighten up Francis" :D :D :D

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  7. HH11

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    +1. While I don't like abbreviations it is still just a forum. Punctuation and grammar are two areas of language that I see becoming worse and worse. I have read some pretty horrible emails from prospective employees and even others in my field and it's amazing what mistakes you see. I'm talking about using the word there/their/they're correctly. It's so easy to figure out which one to use there is no reason for the error.

    This could potentially be a very long thread.
     
  8. wax

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  9. Duane_Estill

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    #9 Duane_Estill, Sep 29, 2011
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    The rules go out the windows online. I tried for years to get government officials to use "business formal" punctuation and grammar in email, wasn't going to happen. All caps, all lower case, no punctuation. People have not gotten to the point of realizing that online writing is just like any other. It's somehow exempt from the rules.

    In the end, it is only a reflection on the person. You can't get upset about it. You can only make sure that your writing is proper. And that is that.

    The real travesty is the young people are learning wrong English grammar, word spelling, and punctuation. We adults know better, but children are
    impressionable. But they have taken it orders of magnitude beyond the norm to a very high level of abbreviated sophistication.

    I'm recalled of a Steve Martin joke where you "talk wrong" around your kid. On the first day of school he goes..

    "My I go mumbo dogface to the bannana patch."

    We are in the bannana patch in the online world.
     
  10. Gatorrari

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    Youse guys are just too friggin' sirius. Wossamotta U? Dis ain't no gramma skool, y'know? Fuhgeddaboudit! :D
     
  11. HH11

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    /thread.
     
  12. Jedi

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    Here... I'll hand out a bunch of punctuation that anyone who wants can use.
    No need for thanks - I'm very happy to do it. Just copy and paste as needed. Solved.

    :)

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    Jedi
     
  13. rossocorsa13

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    Learn to live with it.

    The first thing any English fanatic learns about the real world is that most people don't care as much as he does.

    Fact of life.

    And it really doesn't matter. Most people speak well; the problem is the translation from speech to writing. Writing is much more of a learned skill. Some have it, some don't.

    I'm sure that most of the people on this forum would be very well spoken in real life. And if they weren't, why would it matter?
     
  14. Dincenzo

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    I have often wondered about this, and even thought about starting a thread. I wonder just
    how many people preview their posts before submitting them? Sure some are just careless
    mistakes, but you have to wonder about someone that misspells the same word four or five
    times in one post.

    I know that we have an abundance of successful people on this forum, and also quite a few
    youngsters. I guess I'm really just wondering are these more common mistakes or missing
    chromosones!

    And yes I know I'm from SC!
     
  15. Jedi

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    #15 Jedi, Sep 29, 2011
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    Here's how I see it. I take pride in how I write on forums (please... no "fora" jokes, um-K?)
    I prefer to hit "enter" at the end of a line so that what I write is on a nice neat column on
    the page, not a scrolling thing that expands or contracts depending on window size. I
    religiously use spell check (even to the degree of Googling a word I'm not sure about that
    isn't in the Chrome spell check). I try to punctuate properly and construct readable sentences.

    I also like to break my posts into digestible paragraphs, with space between, all to make
    reading them better for anyone who might read my post.

    But this is all just ME. It's how I like to come across, and it's IMPORTANT to me to be
    this way.

    However, other folks just want to get a thought "out there". They may or may not have
    writing skills, and may or may not really care one way or the other. It's about the THOUGHT,
    not the presentation. I'm totally tolerant of most posts like this - I get it and
    understand why some folks would write that way. Take the good with the bad - it's
    about the comment being made.

    HOWEVER ALL CAPS IN AN ENTIRE POST WITH NO BREAKS BETWEEN THOUGHTS
    I FIND TO BE NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO READ FAR WORSE THAN BAD PUNCTUATION OR
    LACK OF PROPER CAPS ON WORDS AND IF THE ALL CAPS THING IS COMBINED WITH
    ZERO PUNCTUATION I FIND THAT I SIMPLY WON'T BOTHER TO READ THE POST.

    Outside of that example, I always try to just ignore the writing style and try to get
    the thought the poster is wanted to convey.

    Jedi
     
  16. TheMayor

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    Vegas baby
    It's the internet. Deal with it.
     
  17. italiafan

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    there
    they're
    their

    unbelievable how many educated people can't get these three straight

    your
    you're
     
  18. Crawler

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    There are, also those, certain persons, who use, way too many, commas.
     
  19. Crawler

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    It's = it is (contraction)
    Its = possessive (the exception to the rule cited by the OP)
     
  20. toggie

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    So how does one write "I have driven three 328 GTS's in my life" without using the apostrophe?

    "I have driven three 328 GTSes in my life" doesn't look right to me.
    .
     
  21. Crawler

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    I would go with "GTSs".
     
  22. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
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    Well, it doesn't help that English is a devilishly difficult language with "rules" that are so frequently broken. Consider the pronunciation of the words bough, cough, dough, rough and through and you can see why people have difficulty. (Anyone for bau, kawf, doe, ruff and thru?)

    But I think the main problem is slopiness. People just don't check their posts before hitting the "submit" button. Don't be in such a hurry - take one last look before hitting the button.
     
  23. Hocakes

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    My least favorite: "prolly" in place of "probably". It's not even a damn word!!!!!
     
  24. Crawler

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    I think it was G. B. Shaw who came up with the following spelling for "fish".

    Ghoti

    GH as in "tough"
    O as in "women"
    TI as in "assumption"
     
  25. Crawler

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    Thank you for that. It drives me crazy!
     

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