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A Winters Tale

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by barabus, Nov 19, 2004.

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  1. barabus

    barabus F1 Rookie

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    In these very cold days of winter do we NEED to heat our garages????

    What do you think?????
     
  2. f328nvl

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    Only if you want to increase the rate at which your car rusts. Cold & dry is best so put it in a shed with a nice through draught. If you forget it, it'll be a nicer barn find!

    Good to meet you at Silverstone

    John
     
  3. barabus

    barabus F1 Rookie

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    Is that true John? If so why do so many people heat their garages are they all wrong or are you just winding me up, LOL

    Nice to meet U 2
     
  4. tonyh

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    #4 tonyh, Nov 19, 2004
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    Tell that to Ray Fergie :D
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  5. Lee_Proctor

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    LMAO

    I reckon he has a hot water bottle for it, and calms it during thunder storms
     
  6. GrahamS

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    It's moisture, rather then temperature, that causes rust.

    After a cold night the air in your garage heats up quicker than the car.

    This colder temperature then causes any moisture in the air to condense on the car. That's when the rusting process starts.

    I suppose a constant heat would avoid these temperature differences but I've no idea what effect it has on any ambient moisture in the garage.
     
  7. Andy hls

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    Put it in the garage with a heat source,a dehumidifier,and park it on carpet tiles so the tyres dont get cold spots.

    Thats all you need to do to keep them happy.

    Andy.
     
  8. collette 512bbi

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    I like!:)
     
  9. barabus

    barabus F1 Rookie

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    Cheers Andy, I got the de-humidifier and carpet tiles all I need now is the central heating.

    PS. Hope your car will soon be better.
     
  10. twotoomany

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    Apparently Ray did sit with thecar on Nov 5th.
     
  11. f328nvl

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    If you want to increase the rate at which a chemical reaction occurs, heat it up.

    The point about condensation is relevant, but that's why you need a draught - you don't get (as much) condensation in moving air. However, your car will still rust if it is bone dry if any iron is exposed to air. Iron oxidises naturally without water, it oxidises quicker with water and heat.

    Having said that the iron's not necessarily the metal most likely to corode. Most corrosion starts where two different metals touch - water, which conducts electricity, is often is the fluid that bridges the gap between two metal surfaces.

    There was long article on this in Classic & Sports a few months ago (probably a year?). Their conclusion? Store in a dry barn. No duvet or hot water bottles.

    Why do people buy dehumidifiers? Same reason cat owners buy "Duck with a hint of Orange" cat food - they feel better for it, but the cat couldn't care less?

    jg
     
  12. tonyh

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    Have to say mine sits in an unheated, un- dehumidified garage all year round. It's covered tho' ;)
     
  13. GrahamS

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    I think this is the article you're referring to

    http://www.classiccarsmagazine.co.uk/nav?page=classiccars.specialfeatures.detail&resource=651222
     
  14. f328nvl

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    same here
     
  15. qaev

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    The classic cars article referred to by GrahamS highlights the risks with covers - if they get wet and are in contact with the paint they will cause corrosion. According to the article "Paint is naturally slightly porous, so if moisture is in contact with it for long enough, such as if a sheet over a car becomes soaked, it will gradually seep through the paint in sufficient quantity to set up corrosion cells under the paint." So, unless you are sure your covers will stay dry and not trap condensation, I'd watch out.

    My draughty, leaky garage will have to do for me!

    Q
     
  16. f328nvl

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  17. coolblue

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    Gentlemen...gentlemen...cars are NOT mammals...I tried feeding mine and getting milk from it last night with little success...they don't need warmth...the occasional hug perhaps......
     
  18. stevep

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    same here
     
  19. matkat

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    What I want to know is where is cold AND dry in Britain???
     
  20. GrahamS

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  21. f328nvl

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  22. F308 MAN

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    i only have heat in the garage when working in there ..... too often a temperature change generates a tremendous amount of condensation.
    always make sure there is plenty of ventilation.
    d
    ps .... might put the heating on in there tonight, as lee is sleeping in there !
     
  23. matkat

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    Thats in the Hebrides isn"t it!!!
     
  24. matkat

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    Fortunately will have to take Your word for that one but thinking about my own ex I think they maybe related!!!!
     
  25. jeffQV

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    ditto for me too, no problems and cheaper than heating, dehumidifying etc etc
     

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