Project F141 and updated 2006 RIV list?

Just saw this while browsing through the good ol' RIV's admissibility list. I'm guessing these are code names for the 599?

Also, this list has changed since the last time I saw it. Have they decided to ban ALL pre-MY2002 FCars now? The 355 and 456 are no longer listed, nor is the 550. There are no asterisks next to any of the post-2002 models. Does this mean that all post-MY2002 cars are automatically admissible? However, on the far right it states that "all modifications need to be...." indicating that there are mods necessary to make the car legal, but then in the model listing there are no models marked with an asterisk...

The information is contradictory. Any clarification? James, Tom?

Full list available at http://www.riv.ca/english/US_vehicle_admissibility.pdf if anyone is interested.
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Just noticed taht I surpassed the 1,000 post mark six posts ago!

 

Anu......

Ferrari no longer has bumpers available for these cars.......but if the foreign exchange returns to a different level or you are a legitimate owner migrating to Canada and you are willing to pay up I suspect parts will suddenly re-appear.

 

Love that bumper supply... so strange that they find them tucked away when the currency returns to a nice even 40, 50%(?)! Weird...

 

Okay, but what about the fact that there's no concrete information whether the MY2002 and up cars need to be modified? Any insight on that?

 

It is very clear...........you must contact a Ferrari dealer to determine what is required and/or if it is at all possible on the cars that are listed as permissible imports. I see no ambiguity whatsoever......your status as a tifosi and the legitimacy of your desire to import a car and for what purposes will be the benchmark in the eyes of the dealer IMHO.

That is how I am reading it.

 

KDS, the reason I was asking was because the previous list (and other makes on the current list) had/have asterisks clearly indicating what changes need to be made, but it's no longer the case. Thanks for the clarification though.

 

Best bet, phone your local dealer for info. I don't see why there should be a problem in the actual modification process, but like KDS says, the problem more than likely lies in the availability (or lack thereof) of the parts. I also don't see why the cars would have to be modified in the first place.

Save yourself alot of trouble and just buy a '92-'02 Canadian-spec that's already in this country. They may cost more than a car, say, in the U.S. or Europe, but the lower price wouldn't justify the cost of shipping and conversion.

 

Anu.....

I am only speculating...........reading between the lines or lack of lines.......heh. I knew this was coming though...........

 

Ferrari factory refer to the 2007 599 GTB as Project F139 and not 'F141' as noted above. Do Ferrari North America destination versions now get their own project number? The V-12 engine for the new 599 GTB is identified by 'F133F' code.
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...hmmmm... why were 360's 99-01's (i think were) all permitted to be imported only a couple of months ago?

what great safety hazzard has emerged that our great government feels it needs to protect us from with these late model 360's? (other than some canadian ferrari dealer profits )

 

The same is true for 355's (1995 to 1999) they were also permitted in the revision I saved on my computer which was current up to Dec. 2005.

To try and figure out why the sudden change can be quite a fun challenge, my guess. I heard there were many US cars that were supposed to have been properly converted ie. they apparently had the Canadian bumpers installed on them but then later for one reason or another it was discovered that they in fact still had US bumpers on them. Who pay's for this problem, probably the unfortunate consumer and our government is kept busier then they would like trying to sort it out. So perhaps in the interest of consumer protection simply ban the importation of any US spec Ferrari that would require the bumpers to be changed.

As for the 2002 and newer cars and the missing "*" and ">" that indicates there are no changes needed from a Bumpers or Child seat tether thingy, the only change required is to enable the fog lights to come on so they act as day time running lights.

 

Actually that's not entirely true. It also says to contact your authorized Ferrari dealer.... I called RIV and they stated that you need to call your local Canadian Ferrari dealer and "they will know what you need to do to import a 2002 or new Ferrari". The 2002 US models still come with the same bumper that is not allowed in Canada.

 

I think this is a good thing for those of us who already have cars in Canada. As the CAD strengthens when compared to the USD the US cars are becoming so cheap (look at ebay) that it doesnt make sense to buy Canadian cars anymore. I think this will help existing 355 owners to preserve the value of their cars.

A year or two ago the conversion from Ferrari of Ontario was $12k for the US=>CA bumper conversion.

In late 05 it was $20k.

Perhaps this is ferrari trying to put the leash on things, as it would cut into their resale profitability, or maybe it is indicative of no supply, artificial or otherwise. -- although having said that, the bumpers still need to be available for crashed cars.

 

I agree with all your points and I am especially curious about the "crashed car" point.

I mean if a 355 is damaged and requires a new bumper you would think one would want to replace it with a proper bumper, how is one supposed to do that? This gets even more complicated if the 355 is a US based car, cause what if Transport Canada does spot checks and your US car is found to not have Canadian spec bumpers. Technically they can seize the car, but if its already landed and been inspected and documented as having been properly Canadianized (is that a word) then does it technically still have to have Canadian bumpers put back on or will any Ferrari spec bumper do? This could get really ugly and as a 355 owner I am not too crazy about this situation.

 

I dont think that the ferrari dealer woudl be able to legally install a US bumper on a car in Canada. I think that would be similar in reason why the dealer will not install the euro clear turn indicators on the car.

 

ASIDE: A year or so ago, someone pointed me in the direction of a newspaper clipping about a guy in ottawa with a yellow 355... something about "regular guys driving exotic cars" was the title... was that you?

 

Good memory, yes it was me, you can see the car if you go to the website link I have in my profile

 

Good Ol' Carm! Look foward to Rennsport Events starting in May! Whats the update on your 355?

 

cool. it is kinda wierd that i remembered seeing that article.

 

Hey Stephan The 355 still needs some work so Helena and I got another car for now to make sure we would enjoy the Rennsport events. If you haven't looked at the website link in my profile in a while you will be pleasantly surprized, another car that you get a ride in By the way we will be going to the ground school as well this year, it will give us a chance to get used to the car.

 

Ground School event at St. Eustache Autodrome i guess your talking about? Ill try to be there, ill keep an eye out for your new 993! Car looks great!