Hmmmm good cars. These three cars look to have a hot challenge!!! F430 F1 4300cc v8 490 hp 343lb/ft 0-60mph: 3.9sec (some tests 3.6) 0-100mph:8.1sec 0-1/4 mile: 11.9sec V-max: 196 mph Weight:1450kg 997 TT (will be soon!! rumors abot specifications) Manuel 3600cc flat 6 460-480 hp 0-60mph: below 4.0sec 0-100mph: NA V-max: about 191mph (rumour) Weight: about 1600kg Corvette Z06 Manuel 7000cc v8 505hp 470lb/ft 0-60mph: 3.9sec 0-100mph 8.3sec 0-1/4mile: 12sec V-max: 197mph Weight: 1430kg Any comments!!!! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
According to the Ordering guide, the 997TT has 483 hp and I think it was 505 or 515 torque. Someone on Rennteam got their hands on the Ordering guide. I think the weight was about 50 pounds less than the 996TT. The exact specs and option codes are over there if anyone is interested. With torque being the key on 0 - 60, one would think it will be close to the CGT depending on gearing. The 996TT was 3.8 with 415 torque or 100 ft lbs less. Perhaps they are saving the new 3.8 for the TTS or the GT2.
I would take the 430 in a heartbeat. The 997 TT will have 473HP and 500 +lbs of torque for a short duration due to the new turbo vane technology. Regardless it will be one fast car. In addition, it will weigh 90lbs less than a 996TT.
You done a great job posting the stats on these cars. Very interesting indeed. In your pics,the F430 looks more beautiful than the Corvette and the Porsche. And the stats speak for themselves! Go the Ferrari
hmm....looking at nurburgring....997TT does 7:40, Z06 does 7:43, F430 does 7:55. I think that's a better performance evaluation than 0-60 times.... If it was price-dependant, I'd take the Z06 for a mere $70k, over the Porsche at $120k and Fcar at $200k. Throwing everything else out the window, if money is not a factor, which would I rather drive? I think you all know the answer.......the Fword.
I think the Porsche will be a lot faster than the F430 in acceleration runs, I'm hoping for a 1/4mile of 11.5 as the slowest time. I wont take factory claims as true stats as they always advertise slower than the real times.
Yeah, yeah, yeah....Same old story.....Everybody waits to see what Ferrari does then they increase their HP and TQ to match it or beat it. All one needs to do is look at the pictures.....The Gallardo is the only car that can go toe-to-toe with the 430 in performance and looks, and it still needs more HP and TQ, and AWD. But at least its compelling in its own right. But you have to give Porsche and Chevy their respect. Both cars are superb for what they are and for what they cost. I'm waiting for someone to do what the NSX did or what the Zonda F is doing: use the same or less power in a car and make it dynamically the equal or superior to Ferrari. Forza, Cavallini
I own a 997 S, and my boss has the Z0 vet, these are MASS Produced cars and have terrible resell value. You can own a F430, drive it two years and not lose nearly as much $$ as with a Vet, Porsche, MBZ, BMW, Women....
The Zonda F has 650 and 560 torque. It also weighs 2706 pounds. What about the CGT. Porsche made a pretty dynamic car there.
I drive an F430. I would wager to say that few Ferrari drivers choose their car based on "value" or "bang for the buck". I don't shop at Sears or Walmart although I am sure I could save a few dollars by doing so.
Seriously, why would car buff be more worried about losing money than performance. What is even worse is buying a 430 and only putting a 1,000 miles on it two years so one can tout low depreciation. Meanwhile the Z06 and 997TT will probably have 20,000 miles or more at the end of 2 years. My 04 TT cab has 32,000 miles and only recently got parked when I started driving my CS to work every day. I do not like the Vette, but I thought the Z06 0 - 60 time was about 3.5 or 3.6. Why was 3.9 quoted? Does this car also not hit 60 in first gear.
Porsche has had two years to develop the performance for the 997TT to exceed the 430 and Gallardo. Therefore it is save to assume the 997TT will have better numbers. But paying close to $150,000 for a car that will be a dime a dozen is beyond me. If you want performance for track work and a warranty to go with it, nothing beats the Z06 for the price. Track your Porsche and lose your warranty. What good is its performance? BTW tracking a 430 does not void the warranty.
Really, I have been tracking Porsches for years and never had any issues with warranty. Now if you have a bunch of over revs logged or the ceramic brakes warp, you might have an issue depending on your relationship with your dealer. How many 360s and 430s will be made. Is it that much different from Twin Turbo numbers. The Porsche 996 TT you can drive every day with basically no maintenance and service costs each year. The major service at 30,000 miles is only $ 875 and minors at 15,000 miles are about $ 278. I put 32,000 miles on my 04 TT and it never had anything break. The car still has same brakes, same clutch, just on third set of tires. It has a back seat and performance wise is as good if not better than the 360. I would assume the 997TT will be the same characteristics, but performance equal to or better than the 430. Something to be said for nothing ever breaking and basically no service costs and never having to take it to the shop. You have to admit that the 996TT or 997TT is an awesome daily driver for $ 150,000 and bets the heck out of driving an SUV or a sedan. Could you drive the 360 or 430 32,000 miles in 18 months with a combined service costs of about $ 1,100 with nothing ever breaking and never having to put it in the shop for even a clutch or brake pads.
997TT. I know it's not what many are expecting. I had to take into consideration how I'd drive it. It'd be a daily driver and I don't really have that much time for track days right now, especially with the tracks being so far away. Judging from my experiences with the 996 and 360, Porsche is the only way to go for daily drivers. The experience with the Ferrari could only really be explained with words that would get censored by Fchat, if that tells you anything... Then again, in the summers when I don't have school... well, okay, I can bear with it the other 9 months for those 3 months of utter perfection. Plus, the top's gotta come down! Gimme a 997TT Cab that's RWD and doesn't weigh TONS... hmm, you make it too hard
How do you know thats not what most are expecting? Porsche will release any info this May, nothing, no words are out of the factory yet.
What do you want to bet. Read your owners manual and then come back and discuss. Regarding a 997TT as an everyday car, I find that almost comical. Most of the time your sitting in traffic and wondering if you will ever get to 20 miles per hour. Or driving a $150,000 TT to home depot or a groceries store. Who are you trying to impress? Finally, I admit that past Ferrari's were not the most reliable but they are long past that. Today, Ferrari make a good reliable car. Is it an everyday car? No; because driving a Ferrari is an event and not just transportation.
What the manual says and what reality is may not always be the same. Again, it depends alot on your relationship with a dealer. I have put about 90,000 miles on 3 996TT as my daily driver and I have loved every minute of it. Most of commute is highway avergaging 80 mph, but the car is right at home and easy to drive in stop and go traffic. Not trying to impress anyone. It is my only four seat car and has been my only for seat car for about 13 years. I don't grocery shop, but my 9 and 10 year old daughters love riding in my Porsches and ask to take it over the SUV. Why would you throw the impress stuff out when you are advocating driving a Ferrari. The last two months, I have been driving my CS to work everyday to give the TT a rest so to speak. I buy cars for transportation, not to sit around and talk about them.