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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by 134282, Sep 15, 2004.
Anyone see the special on Speed about 0008...? i learned a lot...
Yeah, like the fact that it has a "sexy ass."
LMAO...!!! i laughed out loud when he said that...
Also, someone mentioned that 0008 was the fourth Ferrari ever made, but they forgot about the nine Spyder Corsas...
Did #0002 once have the same body style?
Yeah, several small errors. I liked when Steven Tillack was saying "with four exhaust pipes" while they were showing the rear of the car with a close up on the two exhaust pipes.
Yes, in fact, one of the interviewees was Bob Lee, owner of 0002M.
It would have been nice if they'd let us hear the car (especially having mentioned its sound several times). So much of what attracts car enthusiasts involves the sound, but TV has yet to understand this. I guess it's a typical professional arrogance. "We're a visual medium, so how could anything but images be important to us?" The "Victory by Design" series has come as close as anyone to capturing the aural essence of these cars.
Sorry Wayne, I got confused. I meant Jim's new car 002C ...
Gee these Ferrari serial numbers are complicated if 002C is a different car to 0002 ...
Pete, it's even worse than that. There's 02C (now 020I), 002C, and 0002M!
Here's Jim's new car:
And was that body the original body shape? ... cause I thought that the first official Ferrari model was the 166 Bachetta (sp?).
Thus has somebody converted Jim's car to that cigar shape?
No. The first official Ferrari was 125C 01C, with a unique body (I'll try to find you a photo in a minute). It was renumbered to 010I and rebodied into a Spyder Corsa like Jim's car. The second Ferrari was 02C, which originally wore Spyder Corsa (like Jim's car) coachwork (was also later rebodied and renumbered) and there were several Spyder Corsas that followed, including Jim's car, 002C. 002C was later rebodied by Motto with a full-width body similar to (but nowhere near as attractive as) the Touring Barchettas and then was rebodied back to its original Spyder Corsa configuration later in life.
Pete, I just realized how confusing my last post might have been. To summarize:
1. The Touring "Barchetta" body was not the shape of the "official" first Ferraris.
2. Although Jim's car isn't wearing it's original sheetmetal, it does look as it did when it was first built.
Thanks for the quick answer. I was not trying to give Jim a hard time ... he has enough with #0846 ... but I remember seeing a photo of his car wearing that barchetta style body. Plus I did not realise that the Spyder Corsa body style was first ... I always (insert embarrassed symbol here) thought that that shape came about from owners trying to make their 166 Barchetta faster ...
ps: Does anybody know what happened to that 166 Barchetta that was stolen at the Ferrari 50 year old celebration? ... very sad
Great show....... I learned a great deal as well.
Interesting show, although I would have liked to have seen and heard more of the 166MM, even though the show really was more about Chinetti than the car itself.
It was fascinating to see so many people whose names are recognized so well in the Ferrari field: Ed Niles, Ed Gilbertson, Wayne Obry, Keith Bluemel, Winston Goodfellow, Marcel Massini, Michael Lynch, etc. etc.
A couple of pictures of a 125 for pete....
Edit:- Ooops just realised Wayne was talking about 01C, in particular in something other than the barchetta body these cars are wearing....Still, pretty pictures, I'll leave them on.
The one on top yes.
The one on bottom no.
Simon, this is exactly what I'm talking about. This is the look of the "first official Ferraris," before the Spyder Corsas and Touring's Barchettas.
Do you mean no because it's a recreation (the one in the Galleria) or because its not a 125? Might have crossed lines here as I edited my post at the same time you posted.
A little of both.
Some of us hold that the 1st F-car was the AAC 815.
I missed the show, was busy in ICU. We used to have 0008, Anderloni's book has pics in ID, taken by Guy Mangiamele (best man @ my wedding). Wonderful little car.
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Wayne, where was the picture of 002C with the F40 and Countach behind it taken? I recognize the Howard 500 in the background. I believe it's still based at the airport in Eagan, MN.
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Ah, but Pete's comments were about "the first official Ferrari model." I take that as being the model to first bear the Ferrari name.