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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Napolis, Oct 14, 2009.

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  1. CMY

    CMY F1 World Champ

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    Sorry Jim, ran across this one searching for something else.

    How's she coming along?
     
  2. Wolf

    Wolf Formula Junior

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    #2002 is in fact own by a Belgian, Monsieur Dumolin.

    Regards

    Wolfi
     
  3. Randy Forbes

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    Wow, that sure is a busy little chassis!

    It's too bad they didn't allow you better pictures, as it would be a real pleasure to study the details.

    Considering how good she looked in previous pictures, I'm kind of surprised you're going all the way back to square one. I'm sure it will be like Jewelry when she's finished.
     
  4. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Those are cell phone photo's we'll have better ones.

    The reason we're going all the way back is that over time the chassis has flexed/sank a bit vs it's original blueprint and that has caused a "Banana" shape in the body because the engine mounts have raised in the front as the chassis has settled in the middle. We're going to correct that so that the body can be brought back to it's original configuration.

    Best
     
  5. Randy Forbes

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    I knew that ;)

    Good point. It looks like (what I presume to be) the radiator mount(s) are skewed to the right, so a little nip & tuck after sixty-some (60+) years seems pefectly acceptable.

    As always, a pleasure to bask in the details of your projects.
     
  6. Napolis

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    Thanks.
     
  7. tongascrew

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    GILCO strikes again. Interesting the similarities with some other chassis frames we have been looking at. Oval tubes, X bracing with no cross member,curved up over rear axle etc.Great pics. just one man's opinion n tongascrew
     
  8. PSk

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    One of the things I really respect with your restorations is the concept of getting the cars back to correct and how they were actually built.

    Too many now-adays would not correct the chassis and say incorrectly that that is how it is and should be left like that. That is completely wrong because age and wear, etc. change and ruin things over time and the process of restoration should be to remove the damage inflicted by age and wear and thus restore the machine to full and correct working condition.

    That is the only way you can ever fully appreciate what an old car actually drives and looks like.

    This is not over restoring, it is undoing the ageing process :).
    Pete
     
  9. Napolis

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    Thanks! Hope you, yours and your Alfa are all well!
     
  10. thecheddar

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    Having just finished the 01C/010I thread, it's awesome to see a similar (but different) chassis brought to light. I'm finally starting to get a genuine working sense of the early machines. I can't wait to see the details on this!

    Much respect for doing it right.
     
  11. CMY

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    I have to agree- we see a lot of schematics around here but seeing 002's chassis back to square one put a new spin on it for me.

    That being said, I can't imagine how you'd repair it without having a small heart attack everyday.
     
  12. 246tasman

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    That's going to be an interesting task whichever way it's done. I assume you will want to keep the original highly historic chassis tubes, so it would be very interesting to hear how they go about it. I can only think of two ways: cut and weld (probably in several places), or sand fill and bend, of which the first is a lot simpler.
     
  13. f308jack

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    Impressive.

    Jim,

    Has the chassis been weighed in this state?
     
  14. Napolis

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    #90 Napolis, Feb 10, 2010
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    Sand fill, heat and bend.
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  15. Napolis

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    Not yet.
     
  16. tongascrew

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    Forgot to mention thr cutout in the front cross bar and guide for the hand engine crank similar to 'other' early GILCO Frames. just one man's opinion Tongascrew
     
  17. Teenferrarifan

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    Mr G,
    that photo is awesome where was it taken? Any more shots? To stay on topic I can't wait to see the finished product.
    Erik
     
  18. Napolis

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    Where the window mullions were made by filling rectangular aluminum tubing with sand, heating and bending them.

    :)
     
  19. BigTex

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    I'd have to wake up a little earlier, to see that every day......very nice!!!

    I know where it is......:D :D
     
  20. macca

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  21. Napolis

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  22. thecheddar

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    I think that was one of the identifying bits also in 010I, if I'm not mistaken. Was it really a hand crank though? Didn't they use a starter cart?
     
  23. CMY

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    Still digging the EC Bell on the dock, Jim. I won't live anywhere off that path. ;)
     
  24. Randy Forbes

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    El Camino Real? That's what I was thinking it looked like.
     

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