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  1. Michael Muller

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    Unlikely, because at that time she was in the belly of a steamer back from Rio de Janeiro to Genova.
     
  2. Napolis

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    #27 Napolis, Jan 5, 2006
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    You are of course right. Should have read "at the Mille Miglia in 49". 002C May be back in Europe next April at Villa d'Est and will be back at the historic Targa with her sister 0846 in June.

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  3. Napolis

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  4. Michael Muller

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    Hi Jim, familiar photo.... :)

    Wasn't here for a long time cause I dropped my login, however, have noticed your emotional reports about the Giro, great stuff indeed!
     
  5. Napolis

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    Thanks! It really is very emotional to drive these peices of history through those streets.

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  6. dretceterini

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    Did you ever figure out what those decals are where you have the Ferrari shields now?
     
  7. Napolis

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    Hi

    I beleive someone said that they were from a club in South America from when 002C raced there. That shot was from last year. We are going to paint on the proper period shields. (SF)

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  8. Michael Muller

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    What do you mean? That white circle with the dark horizontal bar? That's the logo of the Scuderia Besana. However, I never could find out how it looked in detail.
     
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  10. dretceterini

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    Must be the Scuderia Besana logo; I don't think it is the YPF logo, as every YPF logo I have seen doesn't have the dark bar running through the middle. Anyone have a good photo of the Scuderia Besana logo??
     
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  12. morcal

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    This logo has to do with a crude oil company in Argentina ( Yacimientos Petroliferos F.) Color is white and blue . Should have been the sponsor of racing like the Carrera Panamericana over there.
     
  13. dretceterini

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    Yes, that's it. Anyone have a clearer photo?
     
  14. Michael Muller

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    YPF is in fact the former state-owned Argentine oil company, some years ago taken over by REPSOL. YPF was Peron's instrument to sponsor the Temporada races, as extremely high starting and price moneys had been offered to attract the European teams. This YPF sponsorship was traditional, in the beginning by order of Il Presidente, and later simply for commercial reasons. Even the Mercedes 450 SLC 5.0 of the 1978 South America Rallye carried exactly the same sticker as the 1948 Temporada entrants. The sticker was obligatory for all cars.

    The white circle with the dark bar and the "b" is the Besana logo. IMHO this would be the correct one for #002C, expecially when in 1949 configuration.
     
  15. Napolis

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    Any idea of it's colors?

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  16. Michael Muller

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    Which one?
     
  17. Napolis

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    The one you think I should use. :)
     
  18. Michael Muller

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    Ooops! You're drilling with your finger in an open wound...!
    Since years I'm trying to find out, but withour any success. I believe it was the logo of their company, which was a candy/sweets factory, so I checked various Besana companies in Italy on their history, but failed.
     
  19. Napolis

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    Regards and Thanks!!
     
  20. FerrariStuff.com

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    There is a Besana company in Italy involved with dried fruits and who still sponsor "engine powered" events and have been around since 1921.

    www.besanagroup.com

    But you probably know that one already....
     
  21. Michael Muller

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    Yeah, but the PR manager was unable or unwilling to help me.
     
  22. GabyTR

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    Nice to see that of YPF, i have a friend in Argentina his name is Nestor Salerno, he have owned a lot of F cars and race in the 60`s, he race with a 250LM and a lot of cars more and is very nice to learn all that things that are posting, thanks :D

    I have to learn English too... :D sorry for my little english¡¡

    Best Regards,
     
  23. Napolis

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    Welcome!
     
  24. Napolis

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  25. dretceterini

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    I am trying to dig up a color photo or at least a color drawing so the Scuderia badge can be reproduced, through contacts in Italy...but unfortunately most of the people I knew that might know have passed on. I'll let you know when/if I find anything..

    Stu
     

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