0202 A – Bought on Ebay - Long Lost Even-Numbered Comp Ferrari Found

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Marcel Massini, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. wizzells

    wizzells Karting

    Jul 16, 2005
    Milwaukee, WI
    Um yeah, So I think the engine (in any of the various states shown) qualifies as "news". Very cool!
  2. wizzells

    wizzells Karting

    Jul 16, 2005
    Milwaukee, WI
    Also, interesting to see a 4-ring piston design. Is that typical of Ferrari of this era? I thought that was stuff that was used many years prior as well as in radial engine design, circa WWII
  3. VisualHomage

    VisualHomage F1 Veteran

    Aug 30, 2006
    What is so cool here, too, is the historical ramifications of this entire find and quest to reunite as much of the original machine as possible. It is both archaeological and scientific. And it makes a great story. I'm very interested in this unfolding.....
  4. miurasv

    miurasv F1 Veteran

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    Steven Robertson
    ..."archaeological and scientific." I love it. Fabulous!!!
  5. Motob

    Motob Formula 3
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    Nov 11, 2003
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    Brian Brown
    The last owner traded a refrigerator for it. I bet it cost Tom just a little bit more.
  6. VisualHomage

    VisualHomage F1 Veteran

    Aug 30, 2006
  7. VisualHomage

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  8. 3500 GT

    3500 GT Formula 3

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    #383 3500 GT, Jul 3, 2012
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    Tom out bid me on this chassis by a few dollars,........the most expensive dollars in my life!

    Doh! ;)

    Congrats to the Ferrari doer, not the chatter!

    Ciao and best!

  9. thecheddar

    thecheddar Formula 3

    Jun 29, 2006
    Santa Monica
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    Excellent. So now we will see a complete car soon, no? Fans of this story can't wait! :)

    Has the body been re-fab'd yet? The chassis restored? Or were you waiting for the engine owner to relent before starting? I'm not prone to prying but this is the one thread I really look forward to seeing progress on. Cheers!
  10. shaughnessy

    shaughnessy Formula 3
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    Apr 1, 2004
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    Thomas E Shaughnessy
    Don't feel bad, I doubt I would have been outbid.
    I had 2 esnipe bids in on the 340 chassis, my maximum bid was in excess of $262,000

    The engine was a small fortune

    Rest easy
  11. wax

    wax Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Dirty Harry
    That's a lot of Kelvinators.
  12. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 3, 2002
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    What's the scoop on your recent set of pics?

    Engine restored by Ferrari Classiche?
  13. Ferraripilot

    Ferraripilot F1 World Champ
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    May 10, 2006
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    How bad was the rebuild? Did it need everything everything? Or was it straight forward for the most part
  14. f308jack

    f308jack F1 Rookie

    Jun 7, 2007
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    Jack Verschuur
    Very helpful answer, thank you.
  15. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Global Moderator
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    Dec 10, 2003
    The Sunshine State
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    Great find, congrats!

  16. 180 Out

    180 Out Formula Junior

    Jan 4, 2012
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    Bill Henley
    Now the seller is kicking himself . . . that he didn't have some stooge bidders!
  17. 3500 GT

    3500 GT Formula 3

    Nov 2, 2008
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    Ahhhhh,..........(happy sigh).....that makes it a little easier!

    Tom, I'm happy to hear that the engine is now with you.

    Any idea to what became of the original skin??? Are there ANY pieces left?

    Ciao and best!

  18. 350HPMondial

    350HPMondial F1 Rookie

    Feb 1, 2002
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    2 Months gone,,, Updates,,,?
    Did you contact my Buddy,, ? he needs 12 wrist pin bushings.
    ( Go inside the pistons. PM sent.)

  19. Vintage Ferrari

    May 1, 2011
    Yes, please continue the story, subscribed.
  20. 375+

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    Dec 28, 2005
    Patina plus.
  21. bitzman

    bitzman Formula 3

    Feb 15, 2008
    Was the price of the correct numbered engine in the ball park?
    Did Shaughnessy sell the car on without restoring it?

    Would Ferrari's Classic Dept. make a new replacement block if the original was not buyable and how would they number it? I couldn't believe the estimate someone gave for a block--surely it couldn't be more than $100,000.

    As far as the registration issue, I had a few instances, of similar paper mix-ups. When I bought a gullwing in Toronto in the Sixties, I was on the bridge over to Detroit when customs noticed the chassis number on the title was one number off the chassis number on the car. But since I was holding up traffic they let me go and the Michigan DMV thought "ah, what's one number off" and registered it Turned out the guy who sold it had two gullwings and gave me the wrong title. Must have been hell for the buyer of the second car.
    Better yet is when this guy bought an Abarth Zagato out of my front yard. We didn't have a title so we wrote a Certifico di Originato (sp?) using words from an Italian menu. I don't know if the DMV fell for that one, maybe if they didn't know Italian food...
  22. texasmr2

    texasmr2 F1 World Champ

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    I saw this chassis on Chasing Classic Cars, wow just wow!!
  23. tx246

    tx246 F1 Veteran
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    Nov 4, 2003
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    I have no idea what the status of the car is, other than postings here by owners, but a competition motor, regardless of serial number (well, let's even include a basic production car motor) is a number FAR in excess of $100k.

    What used to fly in the past, doesn't anymore, mainly from a government computer system idea. Although, I am confident what you state is true, you mention your experience with stuff like this. I had to go through this recently with a Dino. Navigating through the state titling system is not easy. And I am in TX, which is a pretty easy State to work with.


  24. jjmcd

    jjmcd Formula Junior

    Dec 3, 2004
    The outside of the engine looks pristine but the boxed internals appear to have been left out in a field to rot. There must be an interesting story here....

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