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07-09 Bentley Arnage T

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  1. Agc23

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    I have always loved the 2007-2009 Bentley Arnage T and wanted to know if they will continue to depreciate or are they at the bottom of the depreciation curve and might even appreciate in the future. To some the Arnage is the last real Bentley.

    Let me know what you think.

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. absent

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    2007-2009 are the best iterations of Arnage, developed to absolute perfection, 500hp with locomotive like torque, best transmission and electronics, virtually bulletproof reliable cars.
    Too good to depreciate significantly under $50k like the previous years and a terrific buy anywhere between $50k and $100k (depending on mileage).
    I wouldn't say they are the last true Bentleys though, current Mulsanne is still unquestionably a real, honest to God Bentley.
     
  3. Agc23

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    Thanks for the detailed information.

    I just love the way the 2007-2009 Arnage T looks and the interior is just amazing. I see prices all over the place right now, with 2009 commanding the most money. Older exotic cars tend to appreciate over time, do you think the Arnage T will. Pre 07 Arnage T have depreciated over the years and I just wonder how the final iteration will do over time.

    The currant Mulsanne is beautiful but I just love the body lines of the Arnage.
     
  4. Bluebottle

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    Great cars, but if the UK market is anything by which to judge, IMO they are still way off the bottom of the curve, so expect further depreciation. And, yes, the current Mulsanne is still very much a Bentley in the tradition of the Turbo R and Arnage.
     
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    #5 davidoloan, Dec 7, 2018
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    I agree, I think you can use the Turbo R as a barometer, and you can buy a low mileage Turbo R from and prepared by the best specialists for approx half the price of the equivalent Arnage.

    I think the last of the real Rolls Royce are huge bargains. They may not ever be worth big money, but they are the last of a special story.
     
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    #6 davidoloan, Dec 7, 2018
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    Although the best BMW engined Arnage's are currently much cheaper than the 6.75's.

    Agree how good the Arnage is but disagree on that last point. The Turbo R's and Continental R's and T's are the last of the Vickers cars, with stronger links to the original cars, and no BMW involvement. They have huge character, and a genuinely interesting history; the 80's Turbo Rolls Royce were a huge surprise and quite a success story given the circumstances. Yet the new younger money to the market has been driving up Porsche prices instead.
     
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    Yep. The current Mulsanne still uses the same 6.75 litre block Rolls-Royce/Bentley used since the late 60s.
     
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    It's not just the engine, but the whole design ethos which results in the way the car feels and drives. I have owned a Turbo R for the last 16 years and have driven all of its successors at one time or another - Arnage Red label, Arnage R & T, Mulsanne - as well as the various VW-based offerings. The Arnage had all the same characteristics of the Turbo R, but updated and faster (especially in T form!), and the same goes for the Mulsanne, whereas the V12 cars are completely different.

    Incidentally, that engine first appeared in production (albeit in 6.23 litre form) as long ago as 1959 (Cloud 2), so it's coming up to its 60th. anniversary next year - not a bad accomplishment!
     
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  9. Agc23

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    I’ve been thinking for some time about getting one as a weekend/toy car but just worries about the depreciation. I can get a pretty low mile (under 20k) 2007 for around $50k. I don’t plan to put a lot of miles (<2k annually) on the car so I was hoping I keep the miles down. I like to keep my cars long term and was wondering why these cars don’t appreciate over time.

    A Turbo R is a great car but their prices never really appreciated
     
  10. davidoloan

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    I think the Continental R and T, are the most likely to appreciate, but it could be a very long game if ever.

    I think the Shadows and Turbo R will always hold their value accounting for inflation, and I think the Arnage will be similar to them once it’s down to their price levels.

    I think the only Arnage that is fully depreciated is the BMW V8 version which is a good car, though obviously not the engine everybody wants. A mint 17,000 mile car retailed for mid £20k in the U.K. which has to be a bargain.
     
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    I would concur with all of that. Pretty much all RR/B standard saloons will head for the £10-20K range depending on mileage and condition. One day they'll start to appreciate, as the Clouds have done - slowly, after a long time. In the meantime, they are wonderful cars to own and drive - quite unlike any other make.
     
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    I’ve never owned a Bentley but have always wanted to as I think they’re probably one of the most elegant sedans out there and they have amazing power.

    I was always curious as to why their value never went up, if you look at older Ferrari, Lamborghini values seems to rise after they get to 20 years old but for some reason British cars like Bentley, RR, Lotus, etc. never really appreciate until thyre much older and hats only for one or maybe two models. Just don’t understand why British cars don’t really hold their value or appreciate over time.
     
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    My Bentley Mulsanne is only now worth about £6000. Fabulous car to drive and I would never sell it. Owned it for nearly 30 years now.
     
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