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  1. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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  2. eurperules

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  3. R33

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    Come on Jim, lets see some up to date pics of 0854...:)
     
  4. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #79 Napolis, Sep 13, 2006
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  5. BigTex

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    *shaking head*

    You've even cornered the market on the rare leather padded tree stump, from Scaglietti's shop.......that's attention to detail!

    Scaglietti's not correct is it.....you mentioned the panel producer waaay long ago..
     
  6. andrewg

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    Jim you've bought another one :eek:
     
  7. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    No, no that one (0844) is owned and raced in the UK. Just showing it for comparison. 0844 began as a P3 was converted to 412P and then into a 330 Can Am. 0854 was/is a 412P.

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  8. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #83 Napolis, Oct 7, 2006
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  9. thecarreaper

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    amazing how much these old race cars are like old aircraft! the sheetmetal looks about the same!!! :)
     
  10. R33

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    Indeed, as is the method of securing the panels with removeable rivets,like they use to panel the fuselage etc. Its all very time consuming. I watched 2 guys panel a mock up of an aeroplane that we made at work. Once they had fitted the panels with the removable rivets, making sure all panels fitted properly, they were then removed,deburred,prepared and refitted. All takes time,skill and patience.
    My hat goes off to anyone who has the commitment for this type of work.
     
  11. R33

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    About time for an update i reckon Jim :)
     
  12. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    We're moving along slowly but surely. In a month or so I'll have more photo's.

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  13. PSk

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    Cruel b@stard :D ;)

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  14. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    We're going very carefully which as you of all people knows takes a bit of time.

    :)
     
  15. PSk

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    Yeah that's what I say to my wife when she wonders if I'll ever finish my '71 Alfa 1750 coupe restoration ... :D

    Actually all going to rough plan I might be moving into the trial assembly before paint later this year. I definitely will be trial assembling the front soon, and will be probably teaching myself how to apply lead ...

    Unfortunately, no matter how hard I look, I have yet to uncover any evidence that she has run at Le Mans or actually done anything important/interesting ... other than what looks like a stileto hole in the passenger side hood lining :D.

    Pete
     
  16. Bertocchi

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    The pictures in post #79 indicate that #0854 had a standard style radiator? #0850 had a very different radiator/oil cooler combination. It was several paralell tubes with cooling fins on them. The frame tubes were used to transport the coolant to and from the engine.
    Great project.
     
  17. Napolis

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    The frame tubes are used to transport coolant and oil in both 0846 and 0854 as well as scarily fuel across the cockpit which for safety reasons we're addressing with new Fuel Cells and a braided crossover inside the cockpit crossover tube. The oil cooler you spoke of was designed by MF but some/many felt that it didn't work so well and that it blocked the air from traveling through the water radiator. Piper went to a conventional oil radiator when he raced 0854 in 68 & 69. We're sticking with Pipers set up. I sourced an original triangular oil cooler but Sal ain't gonna mount it and you know how that goes...

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  18. Texas Forever

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    Damn!

    I can see old Nappy now, looking up at the key board: "Hmm... which one today?

    Dale
     
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    #95 Bugattiart, Feb 9, 2007
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    Painting of #0854 by Klaus Wagger I pressume???
    I have twice had the honour to exhibit my works together with Klaus at the European Concours d' Elegance! He is a great artist and a fine gentleman!
    Here is another fine painting by Klaus of a car with close relations to #0854! Of course this is a Klaus Wagger copyright!

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  21. wpbekker

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    The subject of this painting is 0846 during Daytona 1967. Racing #23, one small airduct in the middle of the front and above all it's a spyder. 0854 Was a berlinetta back in those days and, luckily, Jim is quite busy with turning it back in that configuration.

    For the record: It also isn't 0856 in spyder trim back in the early David Clarke days when that car carried #23 too, because that car is a factory 1967 P4 and has two smaller airducts in the front.

    Does anyone have pictures from 0848 from the book by Christiaan Huet? That book was one of a series about the Giorgio Perfetti cars. I'm desperately looking forward to getting some recent pictures of that car!!!
     
  22. Horsefly

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    Can you imagine going 200+ MPH down the twisting turns of a race track with less than a tenth of an inch of aluminum and one piece of steel tubing between yourself and the next car,....or tree???

    Tiz a fine line between skill and lunacy.
     
  23. Napolis

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    I really can't. It's very interesting to compare the Big Fords to the P cars.
    In the Big Fords you had a chance in the P Cars you were in the Big Guys's Hand...

    Regards
     
  24. Napolis

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    #99 Napolis, Feb 9, 2007
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    Correct. 0846 which Won Daytona is a P 3/4. P3 Chassis/P4 Motor with a P3 nose and a modified P4 tail. It's interesting to note that Amon who drove 0846 to Victory didn't seem to realize that 0856 with #23 on her wasn't the car he drove at Daytona when he dorve 0856 years later.

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  25. Sire Bruno de Losckley

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    year? and s/n: Chris Amon à Oulton Parc: pics AutoSprint

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