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1:24 Ferrari F40 GTE IGOL 1996 built from Model Factory Hiro kit

Discussion in 'Collectables, Literature, & Models' started by ItalianHorses, Jan 4, 2009.

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  1. SSNISTR

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    #26 SSNISTR, Jan 6, 2009
    That's what I was getting at. From the A-pillars foward the nose is just much to "bulky". Not taking away from a awesome build, just to bad the model IMO is so "off".
     
  2. ItalianHorses

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    #27 ItalianHorses, Jan 6, 2009
    I think it is mostly the angles of my pictures. I just measured the kit again with Tamiya kit, and the proportions and curves are spot on. I'm sure Hiro did the same, or maybe even used Tamiya as a base for their pattern.
     
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    #28 Camoradi, Jan 7, 2009
    Of course the other error is to judge ride height based on photos of a car going around a corner, or under braking. But I suspect there is something under the front panel that is holding it to high off the ground and this is the only problem affecting the overall look. See if you can squish it down, maybe its just the bodywork that needs relieving on the underside, or the cooling ducts need bending lower etc.
     
  4. tomgt

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    #30 zoRob, Jan 7, 2009
    Wow! Nice work :cool:
     
  6. Dino Scuderia

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    #31 Dino Scuderia, Jan 7, 2009
    Nice job, Alex....but the proportions of the MFH F40 are simply horrible. I would have reboxed it and sent it back to them.
     
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    #32 the_stig, Jan 7, 2009
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  9. SSNISTR

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    #34 SSNISTR, Jan 7, 2009
    I wish it was, not taking anything away from your work, but it's way off. The front nose on the model is MUCH to straight and flat. It needs to sweep down at a much greater angle.
     
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    #35 tomgt, Jan 7, 2009
    +1
     
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    #36 moriaan1, Jan 7, 2009
    The nose is steeper on the real car, BUT the build is superb!! Wish I had the patience to develop your skills, fantastic work!
     
  12. the_stig

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    #37 the_stig, Jan 7, 2009
    Nope. The site you are trying to link to doesn't permit hot-linking to images.
     
  13. tomgt

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    #38 tomgt, Jan 8, 2009
    copy the link, paste and leave spaces, works fine to me. If not check F40 LM GTE thread, there are lots of photos. (or search for 88779, 82404 and 90001)

    I checked the photos on islandcollectibles too, they have the 1995 and 1996 MFH GTE's, they both look a little better, because the bodywork fits better. But still the shape is not quite okay.

    Tom
     
  14. F1tommy

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    #39 F1tommy, Jan 8, 2009
    I think the lower part of the nose is part of the problem, down by the ducting/scoops. It looks slightly tall. The Hiro roof looks good in real life. Also a big part of the strange look is caused by the ride hight in relation to the front and rear bodywork over the wheels( in some of the photos it looks like an SUV's ride height).
    That is being caused by the panels not sitting properly on the models chassis. It can be fixed a little without major modification. I have a feeling it looks much better in the flesh.


    Still a very nice build.

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  15. F1tommy

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    #40 F1tommy, Jan 8, 2009
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    After looking at my FCI F40GTE Hiro kit more its not the lower nose but the attachment points by the front of the doors that are the wrong angle, thus not allowing the front end to angle down enough. I think Alex should also try to change the camber and ride height on his models if still possible. The radiator frame on the front might cause a problem. He cant really change the attachment points now without chipping the paint.


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  16. tomgt

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    #41 tomgt, Jan 8, 2009
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  17. SSNISTR

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    #42 SSNISTR, Jan 8, 2009
    God I love that car....
     
  18. ItalianHorses

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    #43 ItalianHorses, Jan 9, 2009
    Steve, already tried that when i was building it. There is way too many things under that skin that will get damaged if i squish it down! Here is what I'm talking about:
    First, there is a airduct panel that is a sold piece of white metal, and obviously can't be squished - I was mostly concerned with the fit when I was test-fitting the parts:
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    And I thought that it might be the problem, but if you look closely at the following pictures, you can see that there are guides on the bottom part of the front clip that slide onto the chassis - and nothing interferes there, so it is not a problem of clearance...

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    ...but rather slightly taller front section on the kit. Maybe Hiro did this because then needed to clear all the parts that they stuffed under the cover, who knows.
    But as you already said, the angle of the photo has to do a lot with it too. here are a couple of pictures of the model at a ground level:

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    While the front splitter is not as close to the ground as on the pictures of the real car, it is certainly not "up in the air" as certain posters mentioned earlier in this thread, and does not detract from the overall look of the model:

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    I agree that rear wheels sit a bit high, and this is exaggerated by the macro photography too, but there was absolutely no way to adjust that due to the design on the kit/interference with other components of the engine lid.

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    I appreciate your professional comments about the model.

    Different car, possibly different size wheels, but I see what you mean.

    Is that what you do with all your Hiro kits Brian? I'm yet to see you build one.

    Tom, the location and angle of the attachment pins is fine, as you can see from the pics above, the nose is not that high. When you build your model, I would be curious to hear your comments about the fit, etc and see if you could get to the bottom of this.

    Tom, I wonder if you have Hiro kit in front of you or you have seen/inspected it in detail in the past to make that comment?

    All in all, no kit is without its flaws, especially a multimedia kit of such complexity from a company (Hiro) that is known for some fit issues in their kits. Having said that, I'm yet to see another model (except for promo pictures from Hiro site) built from this kit, so I reserve all further comments until I see one.
     
  19. Dino Scuderia

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    #44 Dino Scuderia, Jan 9, 2009
    I have the Alfa Tipo 33 Stradale which I will build as close to a curbside as I can. I haven't started it yet but the shape of it is a helluva lot better than that F40 so I will be keeping it. I also have their DBR9 kit which needs a lot of correcting as seen if you've followed any builds.

    Besides those I have had the opportunity to hold in my hands many of their kits and more often than not the body will have an odd proportion. I don't know what method they use to realize their masters but from what I've seen they don't get very technical and just wing it a lot.

    I know a lot of people see 'MFH' and automatically think it's a perfect kit....and maybe I fit into that mold early on but after viewing a few of their bodies firsthand I judge each of their efforts individually.

    They have tackled some good subjects but if the body isn't right I'm simply not interested.....for what they ask for their kits they could a much much more thorough job IMO.
     
  20. AustinMartin

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    #45 AustinMartin, Jan 9, 2009
    I'll take it if you don't want it! :D
     
  21. F1tommy

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    #46 F1tommy, Jan 9, 2009
    On that T33 Stradale kit you might want to switch out the Dunlop tires
    as they are to low profile, another Hiro problem. The Stradale is a very nice kit but is also missing the cockpit door panels. There is no excuse for that. Still, they do offer some very nice models. I want my Ferrari 330LMB!!!!!!!!!!!! Hurry up Hiro, its been over a year since you promised it.

    Best,

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  22. AustinMartin

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    #47 AustinMartin, Jan 9, 2009
    All I want Hiro to make is the Aston Martin V8 Vantage GT2. If they make it I will buy it.
     
  23. tomgt

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    #48 tomgt, Jan 10, 2009
    I do not doubt your quality of building the MFH F40 GTE at all (it is very good!), but the model itself is incorrect imho. The photo of the red GTE (88779) is exact the same as 90001/82404.
    Ground clearance maybe 1 inch for 1:1 cars. I have some Eidolon F40s, but they are the best regarding correct shape, even better than BBR. Would love to see if Make Up builds a 1/24 or 1/18 car.
     
  24. Dino246gt

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    #49 Dino246gt, Jan 10, 2009
    Alex, I am in awe of your model building talent and I doubt that you'd place anywhere but first at any model car contest! Fantastic work as usual, Congratulations on finishing up not one but two incredibly detailed masterpieces! Ciao, Dennis (dino246gt on Spotlight too)
     
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