1 KEY NO PIN NO FOBS No Start. HELP..

Don't know what happened to the OP but it has come to light that there is an outfit in AUS that can pull the pin out of your alarm ecu/immobilizer. The discussion is at the end of this thread here:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=132424

Www.immofixer.com

Also a copy of an email exchange I had with them:

Hi Bob,

Thanks for your inquiry, we are offering a special price for pin retrieval
until the end of September, $739 US dollars.
That includes shipping the immobiliser back to you in the US, but does not
include any US customs charges or duties, which are at your cost. (I think
customs charges are unlikely because Australia has a free trade arrangement
with the US.)

With regard to a specific immobiliser being mated to the engine ECU:

Not an issue for the 355.
Not talking about CAT ecu's.
Talking about the engine management computer (- in a late 355 it's a
Motronic 5.2)


To clarify the mated immobiliser question:

On the 360 there are 2 engine ECU's ( Motronic 7.3) - left and right
side, one of them is mated to a specific immobiliser system and will only
"work" with that particular immobiliser ( in simple terms some data is sent
from the immobiliser when its disarmed that is flashed to the engine ECU the
first time they are powered up. During subsequent start up sequences the
same data is expected by the engine ECU in order to "go" .

If a new immobiliser system is fitted to a 360, then the engine ECU's need
to be swapped left to right as well, so that the unmated "virgin" ECU loads
the data from the immobiliser and then works as normal. There is no way of
telling if the ECU swap has been done previously, so there is a chance that
an immobiliser swap still won't let the engine run. Ferrari sell new anti
theft systems for 2k and new engine ECU's (have to buy in pairs) for 4K US.

Our pin retrieval avoids all this, because we can retrieve the pin from the
immobiliser that is fitted to the vehicle and is mated to the ecu. So there
is no need to buy a new anti theft system or new ecu's.

Owners who don't have the PIN code can apply to Ferrari (through their
dealer) to get the pin that was on the immobiliser when it left the factory.
Ferrari don't guarantee the code will work with the vehicle , and sometimes
it doesn't.
The pin code could be different because a new set of fobs have been mated to
it or because the immobiliser has been swapped over the past 15 years and X
number of owners.


Karl


I would also suggest that anyone having to do the pin entry via the key watch the two videos they have on the site. Very well done, real time vids of both starting the car and feeding the ecu the pin and bring done on a 355 as well.

 

See post #20, that place was brought up their. The owner is a member here and PM'd me a few months back. Price is too high to make good sense.

 

750 for the guy who can't even start his car seems reasonable to me if his only other option is to buy a new ecu , etc.

 

$2k for a new immobilizer, PIN, 3 Fobs makes more sense to me and no risk of immobilizer getting lost or damaged in transit to AU

 

Dave, our luck we'd pay the $750 and end up with the same pin we already have!

 

Hey Eric,

Well, I paid $350ish for the PIN retrieval and while I can't get it to work a second time, I did get it to work once so I know it's correct. when winter comes, I'll be digging into this hard by tracing all the wires. I did paid also $750 ish for a new set of FOB's and new PIN that comes with them.

Bob, PS, if you read post #1, the OP states he has no FOB so the PIN retrieval from the immobilizer won't help him too much.

 

They'll supply him with fobs as well if needed. Hell still be at less than half of a new ecu and fob set from Ferrari.

He can get one fob from them then get cloned ones.

 

It's all a matter of personal preference. For the $2K, from FNA, a new immobilizer, new FOB's with some sort of confidence or ability to go back to FNA, I'd prefer that route.

To spend $750ish (PIN retrieval from old immobilizer - do we know it works?) plus shipping and potential duty, then another $250ish for a FOB (used?) then $250ish each to clone the FOB (also used?). That equals approx $1500 ish to get the same amount of hardware.

I'd prefer going to Ferrari and getting the stuff. But, that's just me

 

You can get a new immobilizer, pin and 3 fobs from FNA for $2000?

 

On 1/22/2013, Algar quoted me $2,100.00.