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  1. Flea7

    Flea7 Formula 3
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    I run 0w-40 in my M3 due to rod bearing issues with the S65 and S85 motors.
    Upgraded bearings are in my future......
     
  2. ferralc

    ferralc Formula 3
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    I live in San Diego and it never gets too cold and the car is stored in a controlled temperature underground parking so my cold starts (I believe) are safe. I always wait until the revs settle down and I drive very slowly (never exceeding 4K rpms) until the oil temperature starts moving, it takes a while and I assume it will take longer now.
    Also I asked the blackstone tech as well and he said the viscosity is very similar when cold, from 5w to 10w that should now be a problem
    Just to confirm this I am looking at
    the technical sheets of the Pennzoil
    CCS viscosity
    0w-40, 5w-40 and 10w-60
    0w-40 5960 centipoise @-35celsius
    5w-40 6300 centipoise @-30celsius
    10w-60 6200 centipoise @-25celsius
    They are not the same temperature but I believe different oil grades get tested at different temperatures and you use them to compare it to other oils of the same weight.
    Anybody knows how to convert this in order to compare apples to apples??
    Dan Loyola (whatheheck) I am sure you know this



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  3. ferralc

    ferralc Formula 3
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    Yes maybe the 15w is too thick
    I am taking pictures of current pressure and temperature so I can compare them (my oil is not new but still)
    From cold start my car goes to around 85psi and driving at 6k with the car at around 100 Celsius I get aprox 70psi (manual states between 70-90 at 6k when the car is 100 degrees Celsius)

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  4. cgfen

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    mobil 1 5w - 50

    San diego
     
  5. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    I would be more interested in what the FNA dealers in Florida and Texas recommend.
     
  6. flash32

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    I know this is pretty intuitive but outside temp does not effect the oil temp to justify a higher visocity unless we are speaking about over 100 degrees ..driving conditions make the big difference .. city traffic (stop and go) or running the car hard will make a significant increase in oil temp

    Look the gagues yourself and see if there is even a concern .... Temps in excess of 255f should consider switching ..don't judge by outside temp



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  7. whatheheck

    whatheheck F1 Rookie
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    I still dont understand, what's the point of all of this?

    I think Ferrari would know their own engines and what's good for it.

    So why not just stick with Factory recommended weight?
     
  8. ferralc

    ferralc Formula 3
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    10w-60 is factory recommended weight
    I am asking you if you know how to convert the temperature in different weights to see the real differences in thickness



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  9. ferralc

    ferralc Formula 3
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    This


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  10. ferralc

    ferralc Formula 3
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  11. whatheheck

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  12. ferralc

    ferralc Formula 3
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    #37 ferralc, Jun 4, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2018
    Workshop manual has more info than regular owners manual. You provided me that workshop manual


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