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12" laptops vs. full size laptops

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  1. damcgee

    damcgee Formula 3

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    This question is for those that carry their laptop with them nearly 24/7, and use it constantly.

    The 12" laptops weight ~3lbs, while the full size laptops weigh 5-6lbs.

    Right now, I am comparing the IBM X40 and the IBM T42.

    I don't think the computing power differential between the two will matter, as this computer will not be used for games, movies, etc. The only real concerns I have are the screen size (12" vs 15") and the keyboard size.

    Do the 12" laptops have a full size keyboard? I will be typing on it CONSTANTLY, and this is the single most important purchase consideration.

    Also, what about battery life? Will the 12" screen save a lot of battery, or will that differential be mitigated by the (presumably) smaller battery?

    I have never owned a laptop, so any general advice would not going unheeded.

    Thanks
     
  2. lesterm

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    I have the little Sony Vaio with the 12" screen (16:9). I find that I like it a lot better than my Dell notebook that has a 15" screen. In fact, now that I have been using the Sony for a while, the Dell seems pretty massive in comparison.

    As for the keyboard, it is full sized and I type on it quite a bit on the road. I have written very long papers on it and the keyboard is more than enough; however, I do have slender fingers. If you have larger fingers you might want to try it before you purchase.

    Finally, the battery life is great. On the lowest power setting with the extended battery I can get about 6 hours out of it. My Dell has dual batteries and it only runs for about 4 hours.
     
  3. damcgee

    damcgee Formula 3

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    I really appreciate the first hand information. The typing is far and away the most important concern.

    Also, I have always heard that eventually one simply "adjusts" to typing on a laptop rather than a keyboard, and it becomes very comfortably. When I use someone's laptop, I HATE typing on it, and navigating with the touchpad is awful. I will likely get a small USB mouse for any extended use.
     
  4. PeterS

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    I bought the Fujitsu Lifebook and it's great! I dumpd the 8 pound Dell boat anchor.
     
  5. damcgee

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    Do you miss the bigger screen? What is your resolution set at? I have a 15.0 in viewable flatpanel at home running 1024 x 768, and I'm not sure how I would cope with having a monitor any smaller than this.
     
  6. PeterS

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    No way! I actually never even gave it a thought. It's great also when you get stuck on a coach seat on travel. Small and lightweight. Make sure you get an Earthlink wireless card. Unlimited usage is $89 a month and you get the internet everywhere you get a Verizon signal.
     
  7. damcgee

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    I'm still a student, so I fly coach EVERYWHERE (when I fly), and $100/month for internet service! OUCH! :)

    Thanks for the advice on the screen. I really am leaning towards the 12". I just want to ask a few people who are already in law school what they use.
     
  8. Artherd

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    I have a 15" powerbook (5.4lbs, titanium) which is great and not too big with it's 16:10 aspect screen.

    The iBook (12") is a great machine, but I find the resolution limitation to be too much for my work.

    Get the little guy, they're doing amazing things these days.
     
  9. damcgee

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    I'm definitely leaning towards the 12". It will mainly be used for note-taking and research.

    What resolution to do you mini-notebookers use? 800x600? 640x480? I hope I'll be able to run 1024x768, but I guess I could live with 8x6
     
  10. lesterm

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    I run 1280x768 on my Vaio.
     
  11. damcgee

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    Cool. I forgot the aspect ratio is different.
     
  12. tjacoby

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    I went with the 12" Toshiba, with the extended battery I get 8hrs or so. Also 1024x768 I think. Works great and wouldn't go back.
     
  13. damcgee

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    I went to Best Buy tonight to actually touch/hold/type on some of the mini-laptops, and, dissapointingly, though only stock ONE mini-laptop, a Sony VAIO (which isn't on my list of potentials). It had a 13" screen, and I had no trouble typing on it and seeing the screen. I thought it was fine.

    So, I guess I'm reasonably certain my laptop will be a 12-13", it is just a matter of which one.
     
  14. Mike360

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    Just bought an Inspiron 700m
    Great machine to use and the keyboard is great for typing.
    My resolution is 1200x800 so i can easily fit two fchat windows side by side.
    Just make sure you get the 8cell battery!
     
  15. Brian C. Stradale

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    I use a 12" PowerBook.

    Screen resolution is 1024x768. And is plenty readable. The small size of the screen is actually convenient in meetings, on airplanes, etc.

    But when I'm at home or office, I hook up to the larger screen that is there... an 18" running 1280x1024... positioned behind and visually above my laptop screen... configured such that its one really tall screen... the net result being FAR more screen space than you'd have with your 15" where you'd use it most... and you can buy that second screen with the money you save with the smaller laptop.

    The keyboard on the 12" PB is full-sized and great... I use it even when at the office... though I could use an external keyboard if I wanted to.
     
  16. iceburns288

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    Go 12. You'll love it.
     
  17. F SPIDER

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    I also use a Apple Powerbook 12" for travel. It works great, with a full size keyboard. In the office I use a 17" Powerbook.

    (We just got the first 30" flatscreens in. We had to wait three months, but the new screens are fantastic, they are huge)
     
  18. damcgee

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    I can't tell everyone how much I appreciate this input -- a laptop is a (financially) significant investment for my wife and I, and it is imperative that the computer meet all my needs during school.

    I typed on a 12" the other night, and I worry about the loss of armrests.
     
  19. ryalex

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    In law school you'll haul your laptop everywhere and the weight adds up - especially with a few 6-8 lb textbooks.

    I bought the 12" Powerbook, and am totally pleased. Just get a Fellowes gel-pad in front of it and a regular mouse when you're going to type/surf for long periods. I did get some carpal last year that has subsided (including in my thumbs from the touchpad button that has a lot of 'click').

    Also, if you only have a one-shoulder leather attache, get a regular backpack. Carrying 20+lbs off only one shoulder for 1hr+ every day was giving me serious mid-back pain. I went and got a backpack last month and things are great now - the pain is gone and I don't dread walking to school.
     
  20. b-mak

    b-mak F1 Veteran

    This is the tank I use, an HP ZD7140. Makes a traditional desktop transportable, but bag and all, an easy 10 lbs. I love the machine and take advantage of all of the crazy features, like the easy to use media reader. It's powerful enough to do all my wonky database stuff and I am still far too excited about the size of the screen--can work on two documents/programs at once.

    If it were for me personally, I'd buy the 12" Powerbook. Plus, the next home computer is definitely a Mac.
     
  21. damcgee

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    10 lbs is not a portable computer, that's a BOAT ANCHOR!! :) :)

    This is exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks a lot.
     

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