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12467 Daytona Comp offered by Artcurial

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  1. dgunn365

    dgunn365 Formula Junior

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    Hello Steven, No I have not seen that 'input' before. To the best of my knowledge a second 12467 chassis number does not appear on any published lists. It would cause quite a stir if it did. I am sure Marcel would have noted it out loud!
    I spent months trying to decipher the number under 12467 unsuccessfully. At the time there was not serious factory involvement in sorting things like this.
    With the chassis length difference I wondered if there had been another prototype; never did figure it out.
    I am interested in the open(?) factory certification question. Remember also this chassis number has a two year blank spot in its history; '69-'71; anything is possible.
    As I noted, IMLTHO there is no question that this is the car that did the '71 24hr; and subsequent events. All of the various colors were in evidence during the restoration/upgrade.
     
  2. TTR

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    David, you mentioned “chassis length” being “1+ inch shorter than standard”.
    Do you mean the actual wheel base is 25+ mm shorter or the overall length of frame tubes or… ?
    Just curious.
     
  3. dgunn365

    dgunn365 Formula Junior

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    Hi Timo,
    While at the body shop we were faced with a "too short distance" from the valance edge to the very front to create the normal smooth lines. Getting over the motor required we make a 'crease' or a break in the lines to get to the front.
    We then measured the main chassis rail length against Ken's car and found the little over 1" difference.
    As far as I recall the wheelbase was the same as 15685. I called it our "short nose Daitona".

    With todays knowledge base of how loosely things were handled back then I now think there were endless possibilities as to how it happened. I just wanted to know the origin of that chassis as there appeared to be a five digit number under 12467.
    On our project [12699] car Marcel's view of factory records show the car was delivered in (dark) Ferrari Blu. All the body shop evidence is it was painted a light blue during construction and repainted the dark blue after assembly?!? Before delivery??
     
  4. TTR

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    I don’t know if it had anything directly to do with your “short nose” assessment, but perhaps structural differences between an early production (i.e. 12467) and mid production (i.e. 15685) played into your dilemma.

    I believe there are/were at least two or three different structural construction designs from front crossmember forward on regular production Daytonas (early/mid/late, plexi/pop-up lights, early-/late-US-DOT, etc ?) and this (belief) doesn’t include any personal observations of factory Comp. or RH drive examples, which may or may not be similar to aforementioned 2-3 I have observed.
     
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  5. dgunn365

    dgunn365 Formula Junior

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    Anything is possible; based on all that I have learned since then; including remembering how difficult it was to do the rear fender flares because the body was significantly different side to side!
     
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  6. TTR

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    As I believe they should be.
    I’m yet to see an original/unrestored or “correctly”(?) restored Daytona with both sides of the car being anywhere near identical/symmetrical.
    If I see one, it certainly raises a lot of questions…
     
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  7. Frank_Ford

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    Mar 28, 2014
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    Maybe the many months between factory completion and the official "Certificate of Origin" and subsequent sale to first owner the following year, could account for some "interim" characteristics? Relying on how factory records describe it (and its components) at time of "delivery" is a safe approach.
     

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