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  1. Miura Jota

    Miura Jota F1 Rookie

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    I always thought the 16M name for the last 430 Scuderia series
    was to conmemorate Ferrari 16 World Championships


    but today I'm counting them all
    and they are "only" 15

    What am I missing ? :confused:


    2 Ascari
    1 Fangio
    1 Hawthorn
    1 Hill
    1 Surtees
    2 Lauda
    1 Scheckter
    5 Schumacher
    1 Raikkonen
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    15 Mondial Titles

    what's wrong ? :confused:
     
  2. TOOLFAN

    TOOLFAN F1 Rookie
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    You're counting drivers titles not constructors titles, of which Ferrari has won 16. It celebrates Ferrari's 16 constructors titles.
     
  3. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    the 17m may be a ways off!
     
  4. rmani

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    sad but true.
     
  5. carguyjohn350

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    Trivia question. In what year did they win constructors but not drivers?
     
  6. 1_can_dream

    1_can_dream F1 Veteran

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    2008?
     
  7. ago car nut

    ago car nut F1 Veteran
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    The pay off for Formula one is the constructors championship.



    Ago
     
  8. Miura Jota

    Miura Jota F1 Rookie

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    1999 I guess that must be the title off my list is missing

    Hakkinen won the driver's title
     
  9. Tifoso1

    Tifoso1 F1 Rookie

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    #9 Tifoso1, Oct 18, 2011
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    Ding !

    Schumacher broke his leg during a crash at British GP that year and Mika Salo stood in his place for 3(?) races. Eddie Irvin was fighting with Hakkinen for the title that year but lost. However, Ferrari did win the WCC title that year which makes it 16 WCC titles. Hopefully, 17th and many more will follow soon.
     
  10. 1_can_dream

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    Ferrari also won the constructors title in 2008 with Lewis Hamilton winning the drivers championship after passing Trulli in the last corner of Brazil, beating Massa by 1 point.
     
  11. Tifoso1

    Tifoso1 F1 Rookie

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    So I guess there will be a 17M version of the 458 in the near future then :)
     
  12. TOOLFAN

    TOOLFAN F1 Rookie
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    No that only makes 16. They won the title in: 1961, 1964, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1979, 1982, 1983, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2007, and 2008. The 16M was introduced in 2009 to celebrate the 2008 win. Sadly I think a "17M" is a ways off. That won't happen until Ferrari starts building a good car again, instead of hiring the best driver on the grid to drive a pig.
     
  13. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Nope. It's next year. LDM needs to introduce the new 458 17M for 2014 deliveries.
     
  14. 1_can_dream

    1_can_dream F1 Veteran

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    I think you just like sitting on lists Bob.
     
  15. Miura Jota

    Miura Jota F1 Rookie

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    then who won driver's title without the constructor's and when ?
     
  16. carguyjohn350

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    I have no idea. I was sure one of you would know.
     
  17. 1_can_dream

    1_can_dream F1 Veteran

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    They started awarding the constructors championship in 1958. In that season Mike Hawthorn won the WDC for Ferrari however Ferrari lost the WCC to Vanwall.
     

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