1956-59 ...Dino F1 pics needed

PM me your e-mail address if you want full-size scans.

If you're planning to build a full-size replica, please make it Hawthorn's French GP winner!

Paul M
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Here's another one (cutaway drawings at 640 pixels lose almost all detail).
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Front and rear suspension details. Careful, they were developed over the years, didn't always look the same!
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This may help too.

12.4 mb download.

Car and Driver July 1961 article lots of photos, and drawings.

Have to confess. I'm not an expert on this, but I think this is the car you're looking for.

http://141.151.68.66/pages/ferrari_articles/ferrari%20r.%20160%20CAR%20&%20Driver%201968.pdf


DM
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Sorry to jump in here, but on the left car, isn't that engine not placed straight? How come?
Jurgen

 

You have to remember that with the V6 F1 and F2 front-engined cars from 1957 to 1960, there were hardly two the same. Frame layouts and tube sizes varied greatly - Doug Nye's 'Dino: The Little Ferrari' (now in print again) is the best book covering these cars.

The 1957, 1958 and 1959 cars all had the engine angled so the propshaft ran to the left of the seat. All had drum brakes until Hawthorn's F1 car at the 1958 Italian GP was fitted with discs; his car also had a special long chassis as he was tall.

The 1959 cars were mechanically the same as the earlier ones, with disc brakes as standard and a new more sleek body style with exhausts under the rear suspension instead of over it as in 1957-58.

The 1960 cars were all new, although they looked similar to the 1959 cars. The engine was angled the other way so the gearbox could be reversed, the tail fuel tank was smaller, and the side fuel tanks were bigger and formed part of the external skin (which you can see in these photos).

All the surviving original cars are 1960-type (one with Bernie Ecclestone, one in the Biscaretti Museum IIRC, a Formula 2 car which Cuppellini had, and Phil Hill's 1960 Italian GP winner s/n 0007 now fitted with a 250TR engine since late 1960 and with Tony Smith). There are two authentic reconstruction cars built by Graypaul Motors in the UK around spare engines and other odd components from the Ecclestone car when it was with Anthony Bamford. There are also a couple of less authentic replicas with Fiat Dino 2.4 engines.

Paul M

 

fixed...

 

and a couple more images
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Thanks; and good luck.

Here are some shots of the Graypaul cars when they used to be raced in the UK by Robin Lodge and Tony Merrick.

Paul M
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....and here's Phil Hill in one of them at Goodwood in 1998.
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....couple of details of the V12 car, s/n ooo7.
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This is that car - Trentside Classics are Fiat Dino specialists and it's a 1959-type replica built around a 2.4 Dino engine. The wheels look too small and the body shape is wrong - I guess the insurance value, if true, represents the work he put into it.

The b/w picture is the Australian replica from 1992, another 1960-style car.

So the world doesn't have a 1958-type car like Hawthorn's WDC winner - that's what I'd build if I had the money/skill.
http://f1gt.ifrance.com/images/GP/IMGP071b.jpg

Paul M
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http://vsrnonline.com/Mags/MC/Vol4/V4N12/MC_V4N12_p605.jpg

Body drawings for the 1958 car.

Paul M