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1964 Maserati Mistral Restoration

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  1. Dosombres

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    #26 Dosombres, May 28, 2011
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    Here is the reworked new Waterpump , upgrated with new made rear Cover and Stainless Bearing ... have a few made so when someone is interested in the newly made Parts just let me know.
    New Housing for the Electric Clutch is made... also a few, the old one has a shortcut.Will fit it with the wiring next Week.

    Roger
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  2. PSk

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    #27 PSk, May 28, 2011
    Considering the rusty condition of the body I would have thought the engine would have been the last thing to worry about ... it's just going to sit around for years while the body is rebuilt?

    Also why the need to rework it?
    Pete
     
  3. Dosombres

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    #28 Dosombres, May 29, 2011
    Hi Pete,

    my daytime Job allows me to get small Projects done meanwhile i work, so i can do the Engine Job.
    The Body is a lot of work about the corrosion , but i get help from a good Coachbuilder.
    I remove still Parts and sort them in Boxes that i will find everything when i go to reassembling them.
    My last Project takes me about 3 Years.....

    For the Waterpump i have to rework it because it leaks a little and the Steelbearing will corrode so in a short time. Also it will turn a little hard , so i have to open it and see that the seal does not sit correct. This was just small Problems but it can gives you later Problems when you dont need it.
     
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  6. gerardogras

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    #31 gerardogras, Dec 10, 2011
    hello dosobres,
    how do you come along with your mistral restoration?
    i saw you are from mannheim, i own #1362 and located in ulm.
    kind regards
    gerhard
     
  7. Dosombres

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    #32 Dosombres, Dec 11, 2011
    Hello Gerhard,

    just start to take parts out the Chassis to repair.... will post Pictures soon...

    How is yours... you have a Picture of it?

    Regards Roger
     
  8. etele

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    #33 etele, Feb 16, 2012
    Hi! I just got into a Mistral restoration - something like what you guys are working on :) Mine is a 1966 piece and I cannot locate a few items which must be from other types of cars, such as:

    * dome light
    * the steel rods (?) that keep the hood open (don't know the right English name)
    * the water reservoir for windshield washer

    Any ideas?
     
  9. wbaeumer

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    #34 wbaeumer, Feb 16, 2012
    What is the VIN of your car?

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  10. etele

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    #35 etele, Feb 16, 2012
    It is a 1966 coupe, VIN 109680. How are yiou proceeding , Walter? Long winter nights are ideal...
     
  11. wbaeumer

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    #36 wbaeumer, Feb 16, 2012
    unfortunately I have nothing about that car!

    Ciao!
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  12. wbaeumer

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    #37 wbaeumer, Feb 16, 2012
    Can you fill the gap?
     
  13. etele

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    #38 etele, Mar 14, 2012
    well, frankly, I have not found anything yet. I am taking the engine apart. The Mistral has a strange head gasket with the brass (??) rings around the cylinders. How do you align them? The rings do not have any refrence points - how do you put back the head?
     
  14. Dosombres

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    #39 Dosombres, Mar 17, 2012
    Hello,

    yes... this was old Style.... i use a new Gasket from Jaques at Maseratisource.... this worked well...

    Regards Roger
     
  15. au-yt

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    #40 au-yt, Mar 17, 2012
    Hi
    Are going to remover the ally panels off the Chassis?
    Alloy and steel dont like each other un lees there is a seperation of non conductive meterial between then.

    The door skins I believe are ally and I have seen well meaning professionals repair alloy panels and put them straight over rusty steel structure. It lasts a bout 6 months.

    It is very imports to address any areas of the chassis where Alloy panels attach to prevent the repairs and fresh paint it being hugh waist of money.

    I have seen this exact thing happen to a Mistral here in Australia.

    Regards
    Graeme
     
  16. etele

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    #41 etele, Mar 19, 2012
    I got some parts from Jacques as well, but import to Europe is hell of an expensive game. Italgasket is cheaper. I still have no idea of what will keep the rings on their place...
     
  17. etele

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    #42 etele, Mar 19, 2012
    Mine has problems on the lower side of the doors, the hood around the hinges and some other places. I don't want to skin the car totally - the aluminium skin will have to be glued back to the restored steel part. The plastic glue that is used by e.g. Lotus with new cars, is insulating the alloy from steel to prevent further electrolitic corrosion.
     
  18. jonack

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    #43 jonack, Mar 19, 2012
    Those brass fire rings are so confusing to people. *If you use great care in *each ring placement on top of the cylinder liner and use *care while lowering of the head you will have no problems. *I have done this several times with no issues.. *Maserati uses those rings and rubber gasket due to the large amount of movement, from thermal expansion, between the head and the block. When the original head gasket is used and installed properly it should last a long time. It provides very good water flow around the top of the cylinders and head.
     
  19. etele

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    #44 etele, Mar 20, 2012
    Thanks, Jonack! Hope it works - and why shouldn't!
     
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    #47 jonack, Jul 29, 2015
    This is quite the project! congratulations for bringing back to life a very tired Mistral!
    should be very beautiful upon completion!
     
  23. Mexico074

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    #48 Mexico074, Jul 29, 2015
    Hello Dosombres...

    That is quite the project!

    Looking good though! Keep us up to date on your progress...

    Mike
     
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