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  1. Marcel Massini

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    If the 275 GTB formerly owned by Andrew Gagarin really is 08029, then here is the chassis tag.
    08029 lost its original matching numbers engine 08029 with internal block number 892/64 (it went to Preston Henn who used it temporarily in his fabulous yellow comp 275 GTB Special #06885). Engine 08029 was later removed from Henn's chassis #06885.
    The car 08029 is with the same owner in Wisconsin since 1981, in incomplete condition (restoration started ages ago but was never finished) and it has a restamped engine (with internal block number 834/64) from another 275 GTB.

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  2. Marcel Massini

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    And a third major dealer in Italy in those years was Dino Armando Genghini.

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    #28 miurasv, Dec 7, 2019
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    There is some incorrect info about 1966 275 GTBs in the link you posted here.
     
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  4. asgtech

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    I know it's not my car. I posted it to compare the body work which appears identical to mine. If my car was a 6C (which I now believe it was) like 08311 in the picture, it was maroon, and had a tan interior which matches your description "The ONLY longnosed 275 GTB originally painted Marrone 20-R-189 was chassis number 08029 but that is a six carb 275" I'm hoping that will make it very likely that it is in fact 08029.
     
  5. 375+

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    Series production 3 and 6 carb 275s are identical in appearance. Assuming that your car was Marrone and not Amaranto, Rosso Rubino or Rossa Cordoba is a bit of a leap.
     
  6. Edward 96GTS

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    maroon = deep red
    marrone = brown
     
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  7. Marcel Massini

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    Depends which language you talk.

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    My car was maroon (a deep red) as can be seen in the pictures. If marrone is brown, then it's not my car. I'm learning. It's the problem with assumptions and not knowing what you really have. I now know that it had a tan interior, not black and that was almost certainly a 6C. The question now is were any 6C's originally painted in a color that is deep red.
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    #35 Marcel Massini, Dec 7, 2019
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    In looking at the photos in post #1 again and considering that these pix were taken almost 50 years ago I am of the opinion that the car in question was NOT Marrone but rather Rosso Cordoba Metallizzato 106-R-7 or Amaranto Ferrari 20-R-188. If that car had not been repainted by the time these photos were taken.

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    In the second photo of post #3 the seats appear to be black.
     
  12. Marcel Massini

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    I do agree with that as well.

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  13. Edward 96GTS

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    OP asked that the seats be redone in black leather at time of purchase.
    tan before purchase?
     
  14. miurasv

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    The seats were redone in black leather at Mr Gagarin's request before the car was shipped from Italy. See post 3.
     
  15. Marcel Massini

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    Ten 275 GTB's (all variants) were originally painted Amaranto.
    Seven 275 GTB's (all variants) were originally painted Cordoba.

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    Yes but then Mr. Gagarin seems to question his recollection in post 24.

     
  17. Marcel Massini

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    Of the ten Amaranto cars 2 were originally shortnosed, 8 were longnosed.
    Of the seven Cordoba cars 1 one was originally shortnosed, 6 were longnosed.

    Or was Mr. Gagarin's car perhaps re-nosed (front clip exchanged) as happened so often on 275 GTB's?

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    The rear is from a long nose car with larger rear window and outside hinges on the boot/trunk lid.

    Also I have never seen an alloy bodied short nose 275 GTB with the extended rain gutter.
     
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    So we can conclude that Mr. Gagarin's car was a long nose alloy(3 or 6 carb) possibly Amaranto or Rosso Cordoba sold used by Viviano Corradini and not much else? I suppose that I could check Corradini's ads in R&T but they often just listed type and price; sometimes mileage or 6c.
     
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    I agree that the color was likely either Amaranto or Cordoba although with old poor pictures it is hard to tell.

    However, now knowing that it was a 6C, that must narrow it down. I've just seen a picture of what the carbs on a 6C look like and it is definitely what I saw when I removed the air cleaner cover. Not knowing better at the time I would have assumed that it was 3 4 barrel Webers.

    The car was not re-nosed while I had it.
     
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    Did all 3 carb GTBs use the snorkel type air cleaner assembly?
     
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  23. Marcel Massini

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    Ok then, searching for an alloy, longnose, six carb in either Amaranto or Cordoba with beige/tan interior, sold new to an Italian owner?

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    None in Amaranto.
    The ONLY potential candidate would be 08051 in Rosso Cordoba but that had a Rosso Scuro VM 893 interior originally (NOT beige and not black).
    08051 is an alloy bodied six carb longnose 275 GTB.
    08051 was exported from Italy to USA in either 1968 or possibly 1969.
    In 1968 Auto Haus Inc. of Cohasset/MA ordered various parts for 08051 from Chinetti Motors in Greewich.
    Here's a pic of 08051 taken in 1982 when owned by Michael Feldman.
    Position and type of exterior rear view mirror? Same as on the pix of Mr. Gagarin?
    Plus another very recent photo showing 08051, painted Rosso Cordoba, owned by a German collector, taken September 2019 during the Cavalcade Classic in Rome, Italy.

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    @Mr Gagarin: Do you remember if the colour of the paint was metallic or non metallic?
     
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