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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Mattie69, Dec 15, 2020.

  1. Mattie69

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    Forgive my ignorance but is a 1970 365 gt a unibody car or does it have a full frame like the 250 and 330?
     
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  3. miurasv

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    Tubular steel chassis, but now with independent rear suspension.
     
  4. Mattie69

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    Thank you for the info ,I believe transmission is in the back of the car , i have an opportunity to pick up a frame with running gear and considered doing a rebody , but I am unsure if I could build a 250 using a 365 frame
     
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    #4 miurasv, Dec 16, 2020
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    You haven't given us the full details. There isn't a model from 1970 called a 365 GT. It's either a 365 GTB/4 Daytona (4 Cam DOHC engine), 365 GTC, 365 GTS all with 2400 mm wheelbase or a 365 GT 2+2 with 2650 mm wheelbase (all 2 Cam SOHC). If the transmission is in the back, a transaxle, it's a 365 GTB/4 Daytona or 365 GTC/GTS. If a 2+2 and the transmission is attached to the engine in the front then it's a 365 GT 2+2.

    What 250 are you intending to make?
     
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    You'll do better bringing it back to original spec.
     
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  8. Mattie69

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    It’s the early car 2+2 , not the Miami vice car , I am not sure if the transmission is in the back of car
     
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    If its the 2+2 the transmission is in the front as miurasv said.
     
  10. Mattie69

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    The car is burned so bad the frame and drivetrain might be usable ,the body is unrecognizable
     
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    #9 miurasv, Dec 20, 2020
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    Your posts are confusing by saying it's a 1970 car with the gearbox in the back, but then you say it's an early 2+2. Does it have leaf spring rear suspension with a live axle or independent rear suspension? What exactly is it? It will have a chassis number on the frame and the chassis number will also be on the engine cylinder block to identify it.
     
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    #10 miurasv, Dec 20, 2020
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    365 GTB/4 Daytona has a separate engine number different to the chassis number stamped on the cylinder block. Also has chassis number behind steering wheel on top of the column.
     
  14. Mattie69

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    The car looked like this one

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    #12 miurasv, Dec 20, 2020
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    365 GT 2+2. I know it's not the car but that one is RHD chassis #13441 which sold at auction in the UK in January, 2019 for £202,250.

    Which model "250" are you looking to recreate?
     
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    Different wheelbase and suspension bits will make chassis a major redo.

    Also, the block is pretty different.

    Net-net, a lot of work, and you’d have a car that was still tangibly different from a 250...
     
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    If you need a body anyway, why not make it into a 365 California? Cool looking, very rare, and perfect fit on the wheelbase and engine/transmission. And the top goes down!
     
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    One guy in TX with a Queen Mary used it to build replica of the 375 MM Coupé Speciale PF Rossellini/Bergman 0456 AM.

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  19. Mattie69

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    It’s a left had drive , and it’s burned so bad , I was just thinking it would be a good candidate to b
    thats a great idea , I am not stuck on the 250 spyder , the car is burned so badly the frame might even be usable , but with the paper and numbers it can be brought back to life , is the transmission in the back on this car or bolted to the engine ?
     
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    #17 miurasv, Dec 21, 2020
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    Transmission is bolted to the engine.

    Another car you could recreate is a 500 Superfast which is an awesome looking car, which along with the 365 California had the same 2650 mm wheelbase and front mounted transmission, but 365 GT 2+2 has Independent Rear Suspension, that those 2 cars did not have, having leaf springs and a live rear axle.

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    #18 miurasv, Dec 21, 2020
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    Another awesome S1 500 Superfast, but with the 3 vent side louvres. In total only 37 cars (36 x 500 + 1 x 330) with this super exclusive body style were made for the super rich costing nearly double that of a 275 GTB. In case you were wondering what the S2 500 Superfast looks like, it was externally visually identical to the 3 vent side louvre car in this post.

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    Well, there has always been people willing to got through substantial amount of effort to build/create/own fake things, even if results end up appearing far less than authentic/realistic.

    BTW, doesn’t this discussion qualify the thread into replica forum rather than here ?
     
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