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1971 365 GTC/4

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  1. Spirit of Italy

    Spirit of Italy Karting

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    #1 Spirit of Italy, Jan 6, 2016
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  2. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    14799:
    Original exterior color: Rosso Nearco 2.664.032.
    Original interior color: Beige VM 3218.
    New to Garage Francorchamps SA, Brusses, Belgium.
    Sold to first owner Mr. Beaumaine, Belgium.
    Later with Tiebo Vos in Pully, Switzerland for many years (1980s).

    Marcel Massini
     
  3. Spirit of Italy

    Spirit of Italy Karting

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    Thank you Marcel, much appreciated. Good to have some essential basic info before starting the restoration.
    Hans S
     
  4. donv

    donv Two Time F1 World Champ
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    What does Rosso Nearco look like? Is that the color on the car in the picture?
     
  5. Spirit of Italy

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    Not the right color, this car has been resprayed several times, needs alot of work.

    Original color example would be nice, never heard of Nearco before..
     
  6. El Wayne

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    #7 El Wayne, Jan 6, 2016
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    Rosso Nearco is a dark, nonmetallic red. It's difficult to capture in photos and can appear markedly different under various lighting conditions. To illustrate, here are a number of pics of my old GTE (4289GT), which was repainted in Rosso Nearco by Skip McCabe. I've also seen it on a C4 (where it is much more appropriate) and think it's a fantastic color for that car.
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  7. El Wayne

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  8. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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  9. 365GTC/4

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    Nice photos. Is that a decapitated Queen in the background in the 3rd photo? Where in SoCal would you find a decapitated Queen on top of a hill? lol
     
  10. readplays

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    Nope. Fiberglass front clip of a Devin roadster at the compound of a well-known Fchatter.
     
  11. 365GTC/4

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    That maybe had a Ferrari chassis under it?
     
  12. El Wayne

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    Yep, those are the partial remains of the Devin body once worn by 340 America chassis 0202A. The second and third images were taken at TS's old avocado ranch.

    By the way, there are no fewer than five different California counties represented in those nine photos.
     
  13. Spirit of Italy

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    #14 Spirit of Italy, Jan 7, 2016
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    Can't dispute the wealth of information here on FChat. Much appreciated gentleman.

    The original color is fantastic, not far off classic Alfa & Ferrari from the very early days. Most definately a color that suits a GTC/4. This car however has not seen its original color in a long time.

    Saw the car 8 years ago, faded std Corsa color on the verge of pinkish. The current owner purchased the car in 2009, including a paint job which I estimate cost about a 1000 bucks, you can use your imagination as to the results. Posted on the registry by the owner not long after the paint job. From the pictures on the registry you can see the engine bay looking close to original. WELL, it does not look like that anymore.

    This is what happens when you deliver your "GEM" to a crook. Distributorless electronic ignition, attempted chain change failed, waterpump drainhole filled up with araldite (lots of water in the engine), home made AC system, bent valves, blown clutch, enough excess wiring to wire a new car, assorted array of spark plugs of different make and heat range, some nice shiny trumpets, carbs leaking fuel, flattened fuel delivery pipe, blocked return fuel pipe (extra fuel filter regulator fitted), one brake hose per corner changed to braided stainless steel and the list goes on.....

    Apart from that, not a bad car.., most importantly, salvageable!
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  14. loflyer47

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    I own serial GTC/4 #15199 that still retains approx. 85% of its original paint...Its a dark red in color....may be the color you would like to replicate... Would someone confirm the color of my car when new? If it is the color you need for your car, I may be able to get you the exact color codes for you... Good luck in your restoration...
    I bought my car in 1976 when it was 4 years old and still own it today.
     
  15. sam231

    sam231 Formula Junior
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    Yikes, those pictures are depressing! Nice example of a ham fisted attempt to juice the engine.
     
  16. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Mr. R.:
    15199: Original exterior color Rosso Nearco 2.664.032.

    Marcel Massini
     
  17. loflyer47

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    Marcel.... Thanks for that.
    I was suspecting that was it...just not positive....

    Hans...should you Need an exact color match....I believe I can help. Pm when ur in need ...
    I'm sure I can assist... Good luck
     
  18. Spirit of Italy

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    #19 Spirit of Italy, Feb 26, 2016
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    Dear friends,

    First stage of the restoration underway. All parts accounted for EXCEPT....

    You will see in the pictures "sideplates" funneling air to the radiator from the front grill. It would appear there should be a TOP plate to aid airflow directly to the radiator. I cannot find this in any of the parts manuals. Picture examples or help on this matter greatly appreciated.

    Please keep in mind that this car is an early model with single distributor.
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  19. #20 swissbob 365 gtc4, Mar 8, 2016
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  20. Spirit of Italy

    Spirit of Italy Karting

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    Fortunately the owner of the car was wise enough to ask and get the original parts when he purchased the car, as seen on the pics shown in the 365 GTC/4 registry before the "botched" engine work.
    Saw recently a posting on a used distributor for sale, horrifically high priced. The owner is very happy that he has the parts....

    Hans
     

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