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1973 Daytona on BaT

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  1. swift53

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    Gorgeous. Perfect stance. Typically don't like black Ferrari but that one works!
     
  3. swift53

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    The color with the interior is perfect, a black horse with an English saddle.
     
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  5. Edward 96GTS

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    lucky enough to get a factory red car and paint it black?( must be a Rolling Stones fan:p)
     
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  6. swift53

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    Very odd. A first for me.

    Can anyone document this? Thanks.
     
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    the rpm limit is 7700? really so high?
     
  8. swift53

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    And a bit more in a well tuned one...:), but really no need, as I think in a Daytona, 6500 wiil do it.
     
  9. Jack-the-lad

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    Not for me. Black is far too somber a color for just about any car. Nice leather though.
     
  10. swift53

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    I am really at odds with it. Looks unsightly. I would have the face redone the proper way.

    Regards, Alberto
     
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  11. Italian Tuneup

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    slightly disagree ;-)

    A Daytona comes alive at around 4500 and is getting stronger and stronger all the way to the redline. If you shift at 6500, quite a bit of the experience is lost.
     
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  12. gcalex

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    I've always found claims like the one above sort of interesting; certainly, the various torque-curves that one sees published don't bare-out anything super-special going on above 4k. Having test driven a few cars over the years, I think some cars have been tuned (perhaps even to the extent of different cams) to pick-up at higher RPM, but I tend to think of a properly set-up stock Daytona as being the proverbial "electric freight train" that builds speed sort of relentlessly, but more-or-less smoothly.

    Of course, not that many engine (at least of the Daytona era) have anything at all beyond maybe 5-6k, so perhaps the lack of drop-off can give the impression that the car is "picking up", but in general, I don't think a stock Daytona is all that "cammy"...
     
  13. swift53

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    Well, you are slightly right, but where can you be driving a Daytona and always shifting at red line? A track comes to mind, but...

    Not only is it unrealistic due to speeds achieved, it is also unnecessary wear and tear on the engine. I understand the occasional red line, but not traffic light to next.

    Regards, Alberto
     
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    My experience is different, backed by the dyno sheet of my engine. It picks up dramatically over 4500 rpm. See part of the power curve (PS) below. The characteristic has been the same before the rebuild, but on a lower level of course. And it adds power all the way up to 7000+ rpm.

    Engine is not "tuned", no hotter cams etc.

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    And of course you need an open highway or an Autobahn to use it in a reasonable way. At the end of first gear you are above 55 mph ;-)
     
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    ... and at only 6K RPM in 3rd you're only "cruising" 100 MPH. ;)
     
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    I would never describe one as cammy but there is no question the power is greater and greater at higher RPM. It gives the impression it will never stop.
     
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    But Sir, I was only in 3rd gear :eek: ...

    Daytona, in the proper hands is too much for words...

    Regards, Alberto
     
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    … and after takeoff should never be disrespected (humiliated ?) by letting her heart rate drop below 5K. ;)
     
  19. gcalex

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    Well, I would say that Italian Tuneup’s curve shows a big (and fairly sudden) jump in torque at 4.5k, so to me it looks pretty “clammy”, and like I said, sort of unusual. I’ve seen a factory torque curve that shows a bump in that same range as Italian Tuneup’s, so I’m not saying that anything is “wrong” with his car, just that it looks unusually “punchy”.

    And while I am one of the last people to trust the accuracy of HP figures out of any dyno, Italian Tuneup’s curve is on a trajectory for a peak of something like 370hp, which would be a lot for a stock engine, even on a bench.

    Mind you, I think there is no avoiding various engines feeling different, even before one starts playing with cams/trumpets/etc. With timing and jetting differences, one can do a lot.
     
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  20. 375+

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    Check out the Daytona toolkit currently listed on BaT:eek:
     
  21. swift53

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    It has gone Bananas a Trailer :rolleyes:
     
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  22. Edward 96GTS

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    :D i’m sitting on a gold mine. just need to find another buyer just like that;)
     
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    $645k seems fair I would say. Obviously not for the seller.

    Can we say this car is mostly original despite the electronic ignition and power steering and sport exhaust?
     
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  24. Edward 96GTS

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    gair price for a fair car. accessory cooling fans? no daytona needs accesory fans.
     
  25. Italian Tuneup

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    Don´t forget the non original interior and exterior color. A big factor in todays market where originality is king.

    And the blistering on the left-rear wheel arch could be nothing or the beginnig of a very expensive experience.
     

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