1977 308 GTB 21819 Door Panel Arm-Rest Restoration | FerrariChat

1977 308 GTB 21819 Door Panel Arm-Rest Restoration

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  1. MaranelloMark

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    Hi All,

    I'm reupholstering my GTB door panels. I have removed the old vinyl and foam from the arm-rests and discovered there is a foam cushion inset to the fiberglass armrest. The DS rest is wasted (compressed and out of shape) so I want to create new ones with some sort of equivalent upholstery structural foam. Does anyone have an idea of what to use for this? foam insert shown on the right of these two pics. I was thinking of using some expanding foam that I could sand onto shape but I don't think it will hold up to the task of regular use. The original foam seems pretty rubbery and tough, so it will give and not crush like expanding foam would.

    Hopefully someone has ventured down this path in one of these cars or another car and knows some industry specific materials. I looked on McMaster and I don't see anything that would work unless I get some rigid foam, which wouldn't fill the arm-rest cavity. Maybe a (very) high-density memory foam?

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  2. MaranelloMark

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    Update: I spoke to someone at Smooth-On and they suggested FlexFoam-iT! 7 I ordered a gallon and am going to do some trial runs, and if it looks good, I'll post some DIY photos. Fingers crossed.
     
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    No, I considered that. But no. It does not go back to shape. If you use that stuff, you will notice that it can dent. It doesn't reset. It just crushes. It's not made for this sort of thing. I spoke with tech support at Smooth-On and he said their stuff is what auto manufacturers use for arm-rests, cushions, etc. and it is also flame retardant and meant for automotive applications like this. I think they even have a DIY video on arm-rests. He cautioned me about watching the 8:1 expansion and making sure there is a back-flow vent path otherwise it could crack the fiberglass arm-rest shell. So I'll experiment a little. I think the fiberglass already has some openings underneath so there should be a path to relieve expansion stress inside.

    The problem is that I will need to use a sharp blade (razor or X-Acto) to shape it. Hot-wire foam cutting won't work well since this material is FR rated. No biggie.

    I should have it in a few days. I'll post back my findings.
     
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    Yes, Flexfoam-iT! 7 was recommended to me to be the right amount of "flexibility/softness".

    I actually made a plaster of Paris mold for the driver-side "baguette" foam piece (from the original). I got sidetracked and did not finish the project, but set it to the side until I got back on my interior restoration. My foam is in good shape for its age but it smells like something died!...... and I refuse to smell it when my future drive is in a hot but beautifully restored interior.

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  6. MaranelloMark

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    Excellent! Seems I’m on the right track. I probably won’t make a mold. Especially since my ‘baguette’ looks like it met a steam-roller. So I’ll practice some mixes to get a feel for the expansion and forces and may pour it in with several layers. I assume it will adhere to itself. The tech said to use rice to measure the cavity volume in order to get the right amount of liquid for the 8:1 expansion.
     
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    Let us know how the build-up shaping works out!



    The armrests have a bit of a funky shape, and the driver's and passenger's armrests look like mirror images.
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  8. MaranelloMark

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    Thanks. That's a nice mold. Is the box behind it to force back-flow? The mold is an interesting idea. My Driver Side foam is deformed but I might be able to make a mold like yours and then scrape the LH side to match. How is the foam for shaping? I haven't received it yet. Hoping I can use a grater or rasp type file and a razor blade.
     
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    I used a piece of scrap aluminum c-channel and duct tape to create a big enough trough to pour the plaster of Paris into. I wrapped the armrest foam with saran-wrap and greased it with olive oil so the foam would release once the plaster had hardened. I have not tried the Flexfoam yet but should work awesome - I would just need to trim the overflow. The store where you buy the Flexfoam should be the same store that carries the craft plaster!
     
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    Great idea. I ordered direct from the manufacturer. Once I get the foam, I'll play around and see how it behaves. I might try the same trick, but like I said, I'll need to scrape away plaster from the mold to get the correct shape for the left hand side. Thanks for the tips! Cool to see someone else has been down this path.
     

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