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  1. Barnone 308

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    How many digits shoud the vin number of a 1978 ferrari 308 GTS have. I know that in 1980 the us cars required to have 17 digits. I only found to have 11 digits with mine. Does that sound right..
     
  2. Dave

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    My 77 only has 5 digits
     
  3. Spasso

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    The 17 digit VINs started in 1980. I tried to Carfax mine and found out that you can't Carfax pre 1980 cars because they don't have the long VIN.

    Mine is

    F106AS*26581
    1978 308 GTS
     
  4. Barnone 308

    Barnone 308 Formula Junior

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    mine is F106AS*24033

    So I guess thats what it is,, the insurance was giving me a hard time,, she kept saying it has to be 17 digits, she finally figured it out..
     
  5. Barnone 308

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    Spasso, do you still have your 1978 ferrari 308 GTS,, I believe its yellow, I seen some of your pictures,, beautiful car,, nice engine on that car. $$$$$$
     
  6. 4re gt4

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    My title just says "10280".
     
  7. Smiles

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    The VIN on my title has FOUR digits...
     
  8. rivee

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    In 1978 17 digit vin numbers weren't required in the USA. Not until 1980 were all cars required to have it. The vin # for that year 308 was: F106AS (which referred to the body style) and the serial # of 5 digits, which referrs to the number of F-cars produced since day 1. If your vin number is 26135 then your car was the 26,135th car produced by Ferrari.
     
  9. Spasso

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  10. 4re gt4

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    Err, not at all true. Ferrari was really, uh, goofy (for lack of a better word) in assigning serial #s. Supposedly, the odd numbers were reserved for street cars, even for race cars. But exceptions abound. Especially with the Dino cars, which are even. If your # is 26135, then it's probably about the 15,000th built - just guestimating.
     
  11. Nuvolari

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    F106A refers to the 308 series of coachwork

    S - For a GTS

    B - For a GTB

    The following digits are the serial number.
     
  12. rivee

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    I was told that the serial numbers were sequencial by each unit produced.

    I'll never believe that idiot again.
     
  13. Wasco

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    I think your right about the odd numbers, that is what one of my F-car book indicates.
    VIN on My 308 GTS F106AS 25671

    I got the same thing when I titled her. I just showed her the old title which had the complete VIN. Isnt the entire VIN on the car somewhere.

    I would love to know how to track down more info. Is there a registry for our older 308's?
     
  14. Wasco

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    Oops I think it is 26571 I am going off of memory!

    So DJ, how many did they crank out a day. Looks like our cars are pretty close on the production line.
     
  15. Spasso

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    The data plate on the door jam says November 1978

    I can't tell you how many a day but an inquiry to the owners site could probably tell you.
     
  16. BigTex

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    I had a tough time with this as well.

    It really depends on the original title paperwork.

    Frame number is first, as stated, F106AB followed by star, then what Ferrari assigned as VIN, 5 digits. This usually pacifies the insurance.

    However the Texas DOT manual at the TAX office had a different configuration required, they maintained it should have been the 5 digit VIN followed by the model number. In my case 22127308GTB, for frame number F106AB*22127. You'll note that the steering column and door jamb ID plates only carry the five digits.

    Good luck!
     
  17. BigTex

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    Oh, I think it's possible these cars were not built in rigid consecutive order.

    Remember, special versions of these cars were built for competition events. HTH
     
  18. BigTex

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  19. 4re gt4

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    Production dates are REALLY screwy, and probably not to be believed. My door jamb says Mar 1975, but the Heritage Certificate says 4/3/75. Peter Rychel's car is some 170 units after mine, but has a born on date of 4/4/75. And I'm quite certain that they didn't build 170 cars in one day.

    I suspect that the production date had something to do with when they were finalizing some paperwork, and they must have did that in batches.
     
  20. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Production of the US 308s did occur in batches. 20 cars or 40 cars at a time.
    I'm looking at the 17th car of the first 20. Fibreglass.
     
  21. wax

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    Just a list to argue over ;) & a reasonable approach to the "308" Range serial #'s - including some privateers
    No distinction made between "Carb, i & Quattrovalvole, 208 & 208 Turbo, etc." - nor is 22711 picked out of the bunch.

    Year ---- Model ---------------------- Serial # -------- Qty.
    73-80 -- 308 GT4 -------------------- 07202-15604 -- 2826
    74 ----- 308 GT4/LM ----------------- 08020 ------------ 1
    75-80 -- 208 GT4 -------------------- 08830-15596 --- 840
    76 ----- 308 Rainbow ----------------- 12788 ------------ 1
    75-77 -- 308 GTB Fiberglass ----------- 18677-21289 --- 712
    76-80 -- 308 GTB Steel --------------- 19999-34349 -- 2185
    76 ----- 308 GTB Michelotto ---------- 18380 - 31559 ---11
    77-80 -- 308 GTS -----------------------?-----?------ 3219
    78 ----- 308 Facetti ------------------ 20457 - ? -------- 2
    83 ----- 308 GT/M --------------------- 001 - 003 ------- 3
    83 ----- 308 GTB Michelotto Group B -- 18847 - 22409 ---- 4
     
  22. Spasso

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    Thanks Thomas,
    How enlightening.
     
  23. BigTex

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    Right, sounds reasonable! Notice overlap of VINS between glass and early steel 308GTB cars, for instance. I've compared misc. details on cars very close together, and noted variance in window strips and gaskets, for example.

    Fruit basket turnover, in my mind's eye!
     
  24. Verell

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    17 digits isn't enough, The early '80s Euro 17 digit VINS had a series of zeros in the fields that the US used for model year and a check digit.

    This causes problems. Since an 'O' is the US code for the 1984 model year, most Euros end up getting registered as '84s even tho they may have been built much earlier.

    I was lucky, when I bought my car I was able to get a FAX from FNA stating that my car was built in October '82. MA still insisted in registering it as an '83 model year car tho.

    The dealer wouldn't push the issue since the emissioins test cut-off is 83 & earlier & if it had been a US make it would have been an '83.

    Everytime I give someone my VIN & they type it into a computer I start grinning. Sure enough it's gonna get rejected. Then they tell me my VIN is wrong, it's failing the check & the model year is '84, not '83...

    Of course they start off dubious because I gave it to them off of the top of my head. They just can't believe someone has their VIN memorized! Usually takes them a couple of phone calls before things get sorted out.
     
  25. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    My five digit VIN is the address where I was born, and raised. Thanks Enzo!

    #22127.......127 22nd Avenue!
     

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