I found it.
When I look at that car and I see the wrong right side headlight washer and the wrong turbo badge on the back, you have to wonder was else is wrong that you will see up close or mechanically.
These are a couple a hundred dollar fixes. This 930 is not a easy one to find in this condition.. I think sometimes we are over critical. Hagerty tv is showing truly junk yard condition 356 speedster that they want $500,000 for.. and it's had a color change. They are actually implying the poor non original condition is adding $100,000 in value.. it's called patina.. lol I think we are overly critical of some very nice 930s on here. Just saying.
tonypeoni, Yes and no. Surely the headlight washer (snorkel) and badge are minor, but an engine and transmission rebuild are not, which this car needs. The car also had some paint work done - about 75% original. To me it's a beautiful car, but estimating the price to be $200K-$240K is just silly in today's market. Is the Comedians in Cars "story" enough to justify this price? We will see...
I agree with Jay72 on the light blue/ blue interior ’79. I cannot comprehend what the rational would be to purchase a highly collectable Porsche, switch the interior’s factory color and subsequently turn around and sell it! I have to think a factor in the $302K hammer (Gooding and Co. 2015) price was the color combination. I’ve always found rare Porsche colors or PTS colors to have a significant influence on their collectability and value. The cashmere/cork ’79 did have several noticeable cosmetic flaws at Sloan which from the photos I’m not sure are completely corrected. Again a rare color combination should bring interest to the bidding but as mentioned condition, originality and mileage are what drives the market. $200k+ is surely ambitious. But why does it need an engine rebuild or even a tranny rebuild? Have you driven it, or seen inspection records? With a prudent owner(s) the engine and tranny should plausibly be in very good condition with only 36k miles. For $200K it better be for the buyers sake.... I’ll be in Monterey for Car Week with my ’79. The car will be shown at the Carmel Mission Concourse and The Quail. The Minerva blue/blue interior car is a polarizing color combination but I’ve always received positive feedback, sometimes with great enthusiasm. At least these are people that have voiced their opinions. I know of two other factory blue interior (short hood) Porsches re-dyed black or dark blue. Reviewing the ’79 Facebook Registry, US Car #531 and my #625 were the only cars listed with a blue interior. It’s truly asinine to change that interior, for resale, collectability or otherwise. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Shlobeck, A PPI was done on the cashmere/cork ’79 earlier this year, which I participated (helping a friend) and an engine and transmission rebuild will be needed on the car - estimated cost $20K-$30K. The owner would not budge at $180K, so my friend passed.
Completely agree. Besides my thing for BLUE! The more outrageous the color combo, the more I like it...when factory original. Your car, WOW!
Could the rebuild on the blue car be more of a refresh simply to stop leaks? A car that sat for years would surely be leaking from every seal. How about the brake lines? Isn't there more value in a relatively leak-free car that's ready to drive safely than one with ancient and brittle rubber?
+1 - love the unusual color combos and odd that they would change the interior on the Gooding car. Tony - your car is looking fantastic!
Thank you, I'm looking forward to Monterey. The Gooding car was surely mechanically sound after the last sale back in '15. The car had 10k miles back then, so the owner put about a thousand miles in that time. Maybe an oil return line was leaking or another minor issue, but we can only speculate. An original car vs. a restored, or partially restored car is a slippery slope in value, presentation, marketability and it's overall evaluation. So many factors (sometimes subjective) goes into a 37 year old "collectible" car. The car will surely sell for less than the hammer price back in '15. Glad you guys like the interior, I always wanted an unusual 930 color combo. Image Unavailable, Please Login
I'm in utter shock that they tore out the insanely beautiful and original interior on this car and on an 11k mile car no less. Either something terrible happened to the car, like it was flooded or the owner made a terrible decision.
Here are before and after interior shots. Looks like the carpet may have been retained but it has new leather everywhere. Just 202 miles from the previous auction. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Hi I just wondered if you guys were aware of the 15" Pirelli P7 tyres PIRELLI CINTURATO P7 | Longstone Tyres that we now have for the 930. these are N4 homologated
1979 930, chassis # 9309800775 listed for sale at Canepa.1979 Porsche 930 Turbo_5555 Just several hundred miles more on the odometer since previously listed on eBay, June 2016. Now has Bosch H-4s replacing the sugar scoop DOT headlights. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144772647-post2037.html Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
'79 "Comedians in Cars..." beige 930 with an estimate of $200K-$240K sold for $121K! Market extremely correcting, or just not buying this car's story, or both. I almost paid a lot more than this for this car when at Sloan. Glad the owner was stubborn.
They simply don't care about the 930 being on cars and coffee. Also this 930 is kinda rough needing mechanical work ( a lot ) from what I understand. Mecum has done well with their 930s one selling at $145,000 and a few more bid into the $100,000 mark one even going to $170,000. I do wonder what the blue 79 930 with the interior color change will do. I am a fan of the interior color change though as the smurf blue was quite bad. Many are convinced that will drastically hurt the value. I'll be interested to see. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
930 market has been soft for a few years after a few rip roaring ones, very few 78-79's ever went over $200K, the auction estimate was pretty silly. There is a reason that Cashmere beige 930's were rare IMHO. Phil
Tony and pu, Agree with both of you. We have been following this car for a while - even had a PPI done about six months ago. I told Brett to tell the owner that the color wasn't popular for a reason (although I love it), and that it would need at least $30K of work. Owner wouldn't budge from $180K. I guess he has eventually budged
How could they have done that to that car...seriously what were they thinking? That car won't sell near its last sale price. The smurf blue was appropriate and period correct!
The Blue 79 did $210,000 plus buyers fee. I think mecum did good with their 930s all selling or bid to over $100,000 with buyers fee baring one. Market seems to have stabilized. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Agree, but I don't think the blue car represents the market, just like the cashmere car doesn't. Still, I think $150K gets you a nice example (probably red or black) with not too much work needed, with the '86-88s catching up.
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