1983 QV why is it the least desirable QV?

Says who?


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I personally think a 83 euro is the sweet spot for the QV on looks for a GTS. This US version looks nice too. I prefer the blacked out A and B pillar surrounding the targa top. The euro adds body color radiator vents, lighter-smaller-recessed euro bumpers, euro grill, etc.

The rust prevention is a minor difference between the 83/84 and the late 84/85 cars. I do believe there are emissions differences. I think this stuff is all minor.

 

The issues are minor and only relevant when comparing directly to 84 and 85.

 

I have always liked the black a pillars best

 

My only personal dislike are those damn metric wheels most 83's had

 

Only applies to the US version 308QV (not euro) -- engine management-wise and emission-wise, 1983 US 308QV are essentially the same as 1980-82 US 308-2Vi just updated with 4 valves/cylinder (K-Jet without Lambda, complex continuous belt-driven air injection, EGR system, two cats); '84-'85 US 308QV are essentially the same as US 328 (K-Jet with Lambda, simple pulse air injection that only operates during cold-running, no EGR system, one cat).

That particular car seems to be missing a fair bit of the air injection system and maybe the EGR system, but that's not uncommon In a weird way, one could argue that a truly stock (and still complete) 1983 US 308QV is a rarer bottle of wine...

 

Sure. Looks like a nice car. It does have 16" wheels. I would be looking for the tool kit, the jack kit, the remote light, the rest of the owners manual kit including the expensive holder, the spare wheel tie down, etc. All those little pieces add up quickly and most are serious...SERIOUS...money to replace if they are AWOL. Its got a modern radio and silly door twitters that you will never use. Perhaps the intake plenum is painted incorrectly. Just little minor things. Find out when she it was last serviced.

 

{sigh} maybe a can of worms, but no light on my '83. 16's were std on mine (got the window sticker)

The only speed bump I've had with my '83 is the muffler. they are old, rotting, and unique to that year.

 

Clyde, have you owned your 83 since new? On the light, does your 83 have the receptacle for it beneath the dash? I think my 82's socket is near the DS A Pillar.

 

And none of them are critical to operation of the object - its a car for driving - anything else is a bonus

 

Correct. Not critical. I just see it as important as to accessing the value of the car versus other offerings at the time of purchase. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $5-6,000 to replace. Stupid prices for what they are but serious money and value if missing.

 

...because there always has to be a hierarchy.

 

precisely the reason

 

...not to mention the time spent at looking for the right ones; then your disappointment when you read Piezo's "unofficial tool kit thread" and discover that what you thought were the right tools are...well, not completly right, so you are looking for a trade, etc...

Not critical, but very important nevertheless.

Rgds

 

My 83 was great. No issues and it could out run an 84 and a Euro 85 -- but that was after Dave Helms serviced it. I also had free flow cats and the gold connector kit. The differences are so minor that i would buy what you prefer.

 

I think converting the 83 US with an air pump to a non air pump might be difficult.

 

No, not really possible/practical as Mike mentioned. It's more that the air injection system and EGR system just get removed for the '83s (but there is the right way and the wrong way to do that ). Nor can you (nor would you want to) change the exhaust system. My guess would be that the '83 exhaust is actually a little better performance-wise, but it has the downside of needing two expensive cats rather than just one expensive cat when replacement is required.

 

I'm 2nd owner, though I know the original well. He doesn't recall ever having the light though he'll admit he never cracked open the tool roll. Yes, the receptacle is there under the eyeglass(?)/utility shelf. I use the connector for my radar detector.

 

I'd take a QV with real deal 16's in an '83 over a '84 or '85 with metric wheels or the reproductions any day. Hell this car has them and they are never for sale and when they are they're $4k and need refinishing. The best of the best in 308 wheels and makes a difference to my eye.
This car looks pretty good. Worth looking into..

 

I thought some folks posted here that the "serious" rust proofing only came with the 84 & 85.