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1985 Mondial Cab

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  1. chatham33

    chatham33 Karting

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    Currently listed on Fleabay, a 1985 Mondial Cab, VIN: ZFFUC15A8F0054253, offered by Windy City Motorsports. Disclosed in Experian carsearch is "prior frame/unibody damage". Wonder if anyone knows the car. Fleabay item number:300413858366. I must apologize to all who are offended by the use of the word "Fleabay", but my personal experience does dictate that word is a very kind description of many vehicle transactions there. Of course, any serious interest by me would be followed by a very very full PPI. Just looking and not necessarily anxious to buy-yes, it would be my first Ferrari. Let her rip, boys and girls!!!
     
  2. ferrari 512 tr

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    fleabay is too kind a word brother
     
  3. ferrari 512 tr

    ferrari 512 tr F1 Rookie

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    i just bought a mondial cab.
    wats the price on ebay?
    they are beautiful cars.
    dont under estimate the mondial cab.
    its a pinninfarina design and rare.
     
  4. davebdave

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  5. bpu699

    bpu699 F1 World Champ
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    Whats an "Experian car search"? I thought Experian did credit checks...
     
  6. chatham33

    chatham33 Karting

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    Thanks for the replies:
    1. Ferrari 512tr:fully agree the Mondial Cab IS a nice car. If it seemed I was knocking the car, I definitely was not!! I WAS knocking Fleabay, however. The seller & dealer of the car is very aptly named "Windy City". Read the ad and they fall all over themselves about what a great job they do "THOROUGHLY" checking every car out they sell with oh so much care. So like the guber I am, I asked them to tell me what they saw when they inspected the frame for damage, and, if all was ok, would they fully guarantee the car. Seems reasonable to me. Do I need to tell you no return E-mail??

    2. bpu699: Experian also owns a vehicle search company called Autocheck; Ebay and, I assume. the sellers are now providing the search free with most of their vehicle listings.

    3. I have been a Saab 900 turbo guy for many years. Currently putting back together a
    first year 1986 900 turbo convertible-with the decline of Saab thanks to the golden touch of GM, I have reached the point of throwing money at the wind at any Saab car, so I first started looking at 911 cabs and got FULLY disgusted reading on the Porsche websites of these " bullet-proof cars" and their need for regular engine overhauls. So here I am and, in order of personal preference, 355, 348 and Mondial T. That's today;tomorrow, who knows!
     
  7. JoeZaff

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    #7 JoeZaff, Apr 8, 2010
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    Like most things in life, people usually post when they have a problem or want to complain. Generally, people don't check in to say, "still no problems with my 911"

    If you think a 911 is not bullet proof, then you are going to find a Ferrari is made out of balsa wood. Are they passion filled terrors, absolutely yes, are they almost as much fun as sex, absolutely yes. Beautiful, check, glorious....crap there are not enough superlatives, but they are hand made limited edition Italian exotic cars. And all the ones you mentioned are now getting on in age and made in a time when Ferrari was a step behind modern car production philosophy. I am blown away at how reliable they are given their limited production, but they are not in the league of a mainstream german or japanese sports car in either reliability or cost of maintenance. The engines are bullet proof, some of their transmissions and accessory systems far less so. When it comes to repairs, Ferrari parts couldn't be more expensive if they were made by Dolce and Gabbana. A 355 is one of G&d's greatest creation, but it can burn 10 grand sitting in the garage....


    as I told my wife, Ferrari created the first hybrid...they run on $100 dollar bills.



    Just my .02

    Flame away, I got my Scuderia flame suit on.
     
  8. ferrari 512 tr

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    thats a 308 engine
    not a 328 one
     
  9. ferrari 512 tr

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    joeseph i also have a 348 spider
    beautiful sexy easy to drive pretty fast very loud etc

    the mondial cab is an elegant exotic cruiser.
    more relaxed gentlemans car
     
  10. davebdave

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    Still no problems with our Mondial.


    Since our last problem. :)

    Dave
     
  11. JoeZaff

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    Me too :)
     
  12. Jedi

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    No worries here... eBay cars can be, well, more expensive than you think.


    Jedi
     
  13. jjmalez

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    Don't [personally] know the car, don't know the dealer. But "Windy City" was never a phrase used to compliment the City of Chicago.

    This I do know. There are no cheap Ferraris. A sub-twenty thousand dollar Ferrari roughly translates to a soon to be $30,000 Ferrari. And just think what $30K could have bought you?

    IMHO.


    Joe
     
  14. birddog

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    You get what you pay for...especially concerning 20+ year old hand-built Italian automobiles. I've got one for sale on the other end of the spectrum, but there are are plenty of cars in between if you're seriously looking.
     
  15. CliffBeer

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    #15 CliffBeer, Apr 8, 2010
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    Mondial is runnin' great. No problems, just as reliable per mile as my Mercedes S500 (admittedly, pretty surprising).

    Have bought many cars through both ebay, and dealers. Despite dealer fluffery ("impeccable" "flawless" "lovingly maintained"), the cars bought via ebay have been better cars in every respect - better condition, better maintained, fewer hidden issues, better price, etc. The dealer bought cars have been disappointments pretty consistently as they were more expensive, and didn't live up to the price or the fluffery.

    Sometimes you get more than what you pay for, sometimes less. That's just my personal experience.
     
  16. JoeZaff

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    #16 JoeZaff, Apr 9, 2010
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    Birddog,
    Your car is just amazing. Have you put it up in the Ferrari market letter? It seems that it is where the really serious, non-budget buyers are. Your Mondial should be first on anybody's list who is looking for a Mondial cab. Based on what I have read, the awards it has won, and the photos I have seen, it is hard to imagine a Mondial in existence that is much nicer than yours. In fact, I was just pitching your car to my wife on the way to work in a pathetic attempt to get her to consider a second Mondial. Yours is one of the few cars I would have bought sight unseen. In fact, I am almost ready to concede it is nicer than mine....well almost :)

    Good luck with the sale!
     
  17. birddog

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    Thanks Joe! And yes, it's seriously for sale now. (I removed it from sale previously because I honestly am having a hard time thinking of parting with it, but if I don't go racing I'll always regret it so I'm pulling the trigger and seeing what happens!) It will be in the Ferrari Market Letter next month, as well as the FCA newsletter and a few other sources. My delay is that I'm creating a web page to detail the car so I can clearly display a ton of photos, info, etc. As I've never created a web page before and the Spring is typically a very busy time at work, I'm moving along as fast as I can.

    As far as Mondial 3.2 Cabriolet's go, I've seen a lot of yours (on your dealer's site before you bought it and then on here - unfortunately never in person) and I'd say you've got one of the absolute best of the 810 ever produced. And on top of that yours is an original Nero car, which slims down the production numbers by quite a lot. I'm hoping to finish the site this weekend or soon thereafter...and I'll be sure to post it on here too.

    However, for those looking for more of a driver like the original poster seemed to be, please don't low ball a Mondial. These are great cars and are some of the most limited production cars from the 80's, but you can get a real nightmare if you're looking for a low entry point. Everyone's advice on here continues to be for whatever 308, 328, or Mondial you're looking to buy, get the best car you can with the most documentation, service history, and a satisfactory PPI. No matter what 20+ year old Ferrari you buy, you absolutely will have unexpected service costs involved. However, the "bargain" cars will tend to rack up "unexpected" service costs that will make you realize the true value of your purchase very quickly (and that's not a good thing.)

    One more thing back to Joe Zaff: The FCA Nationals is in your neck of the woods this September - you should definitely make a run for the "triple crown" (Platinum, Coppa Bella Macchina, and Coppa GT) as it looks like you've got a real contender. I do have to apologize though for removing the Mondial from the "under the radar" category last year!

    Best of luck to the original poster...there's still some great Mondials out there! Enjoy the ride!
     
  18. ObeyMyFast!

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    50,000 miles o_O
     
  19. ferrari 512 tr

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    how rare is the mondial ?
    how many were built each year?
     
  20. JoeZaff

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    There were about 1700 Mondial 3.2 coupes/cabs built, about 1800 Mondial T cab/Coupes built, and 1700 Mondial QV coupes/cabs built and 708 Mondial 8 coupes.

    So roughly 5900 Mondials were built world wide of all stripes.
     
  21. ferrari 512 tr

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    thank you so much your the best

    how can i find out how many mondail cabs were built in RHD.
     

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