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For Sale 1986 Ferrari 412A VIN # 62361 - 4 owner provenance records

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  1. intrepidcva11

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    1986 Ferrari 412A VIN # 62361
    Color : Blu Sera Met FER 504
    Interior leather color, beige
    Present kilometers: 90,220 km = 56,062 miles

    Provenance:


    First delivery: 12 mars 1986
    First registration : VD 231630 (Suisse)
    Second registration: 856 MES 75 (France)
    Third registration: 6948 XB 28 (France)
    Present registration: HWR9012 (New York - USA)

    History:

    First owner: la Comtesse Gerlinde de Picciotto from 1986 to 1999, 35,987 km
    Second owner: Michel Schmidt from 1999 to 2009, 28,063 km
    Third owner from 2009 to 2017: Bernard Dalle, Vice-Président of the Club Ferrari France, 24,125 km. = 88,175 km totale
    Present owner: Seth Rosner, founding Officer and Trustee, Saratoga Automobile Museum, Saratoga Springs, N.Y., 90,220 km = 56,062 miles

    Delivered originally by Ferrari Switzerland, this Ferrari has been regularly maintained by Autodiffusion Suisse, Ferrari Suisse and Auvergne Moteurs (Philippe Gardette) Clermont-Ferrand, France. Had new fuel pumps and leather dash replaced, front suspension rebuilt with new bushings, full service and new Michelin TRX tires by Auvergne Moteurs, March 2017. Full service and installed new Hi-performance stainless steel exhaust system by Ferrari New England in August 2019; actual cost $8467.82 after Ferrari Club 10% discount. Original Ferrari tool sets, all original manuals in their leather envelopes and service records.

    US $97,500.


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    #4 intrepidcva11, Mar 26, 2020
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    Bien sur, Bertrand; c'est le premier photo de la 412 que j'ai vu en fevrier 2017.
     
  6. intrepidcva11

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    Wasn't thinking very clearly when I chose a pre-pandemic asking price.

    I have about $80K in the car. I am willing to move the car at $80K. Otherwise we'll wait out the pandemic and resulting recession.
     
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    Its gorgeous I love it!
     
  9. intrepidcva11

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    the last iteration of the original Colombo-designed Ferrari V-12 engine and reportedly the last Ferrari that Ferrari drove. At its introduction the most expensive Ferrari in the entire line.
     
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    #8 intrepidcva11, Apr 1, 2020
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    Actually have close to $90K in the car - had forgotten the Ferrari New England new exhaust and service. would like to get close to $90K or we wait out the pandemic.
     
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    Are you considering any trades?


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  13. intrepidcva11

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    Probably not but hadn't thought about it; what have you?
     
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  15. intrepidcva11

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    Thank you FW but no; I had the world's best F355 in blu scuro micalizzato, now in Mr. Robb's possession (he has made it the world's best). Thought you might have had a 330GTC for an even-up swap :(
     
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    When I posted this 'for sale' sign three weeks ago I didn't need the money but I had a present use for the money. In the interim other funds have become available which leads me to the best result, keeping this very rare and beautiful car.
     
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    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Seth- Good choice. The mods can put something here that says that if you like.
     
  18. rubenpadron

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    Seth, glad it worked out this way for you... these are incredible cars - I think you would have sorely missed it!

    Now, hopefully we can all get out there and enjoy them again soon!

    Ruben
     
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    Good idea Taz; 15th Century techie that I am, how do I get to one of them?
     
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    Not sure if it is the proper way,... but you could hit the report button, and ask for the thread title to be updated with "taken off the market"

    Congrats on keeping her!
     
  21. intrepidcva11

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    Thanks, twice!, Simon
     
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    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Yup, that is the way to do it.
     
  23. intrepidcva11

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    After breakfast this gorgeous spring morning in the north country, we took the 412 on a canter up the Northway again, very scattered traffic, not the completely empty look we had ten or so days ago. A few people are out and about again. traffic signs flashing: be safe stay home.

    A very different drive than our 575M, she's a big comfortable grand touring car, most suitable for an interstate drive drive to New York City or Montreal, both approximately equidistant from Saratoga Springs.

    OTOH, several years ago, on the seventy-mile mountain road rally from the Saratoga Automobile Museum to a beautiful Italian luncheon at the Lake George Club I took my former 412, a five-speed. If I can manage the post, you will see two cars back of my 412 the pale yellow 275 NART Spyder that Denise McCluggage drove for Luigi Chinetti Sr in the 1967 12 Hours of Sebring finishing 17th overall and 2d in the over 5 liter GT class. Riding shotgun with her that drive was Francois Sicard, one of the two top wrenches, with Nereo Iori, of the NART team. When we got to the Club Francois saw us at the bar and said, man, you were really hammering that old 412. That's what the old man built cars for, I replied.

    That evening at the Museum's gala dinner I was privileged to sit with Denise and our lamented good friend John Fitch.

    sorry for the long post.
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