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  1. RBM

    RBM Formula Junior

    Nov 22, 2009
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    #1 RBM, Feb 23, 2014
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    1987 Porsche 928S4 Coupe
    Exterior: Dark Blue
    Interior: Linen Leather, Silver Grey Carpet, Marine Blue Trim
    59,1XX miles
    5.0L V8, DOHC, 32-valve Engine producing 316 HP
    5-Speed Manual Transmission
    Rear Wheel Drive
    Stock, no modifications, all original except for updated Blaupunkt stereo
    Porsche Dealer serviced, extensive records from 1987 to present
    $17K in receipts for service and restoration in last 8000 miles
    Includes Certificate of Authenticity from Porsche, all accessories, and car cover
    Condition: Mechanical=10.0, Exterior=9.8, Interior=9.9
    Clean Title, Clean CARFAX
    Owned by Non-Smoker, 25-year PCA member
    For Sale: $29,928
    Car is located in Austin, TX (license plate is commemorative PCA plate).

    Maintenance Highlights:
    • 15K, 30K, and 60K services just completed
    • Air filter and spark plugs replaced at 52K
    • Tires replaced at 46K
    • Coolant Flush and Brake Fluid Flush completed in 2013
    • Battery replaced in 2011

    PM Me for a spreadsheet summary of all maintenance records dating back to 1987.

    Commentary on the collectability of the Porsche 928: Gen-X marks the spot - collectability of the Porsche 928 - 928 Classics

    Optional Equipment:
    M158 Radio-Blaupunkt Melbourne
    M302 Rear 928S4 Badge
    M418 Side Protection Moldings
    M481 Manual Transmission
    M650 Electric Sunroof

    Standard Features & Equipment: Air Conditioning, Power Steering, Power Windows, Power Door Locks, Telescoping Wheel, AM/FM Stereo, Leather, Dual Power Seats, Porsche light weight Forged Alloy Wheels, 4-Link Front Suspension W/Stabilizer Bar, Double A-Arm Rear Suspension W/Stabilizer Bar, Vehicle-Speed-Sensitive Rack & Pinion Steering, Power-Assisted Vented Front/Rear Disc Brakes, Tool Kit Located In Luggage Area, Power Sunroof W/Slide Function, Body-Color Bumpers, Painted Body-Color Protective Moldings, (2) Front Fog Lights, Split Folding Rear Seat W/Lockable Seatbacks, Front Center Armrest, Automatic Climate Control-Includes: Rear Window Defogger, Storage Pockets-Inc: Front Doors & front/rear center consoles, Leather Wrapped Shift Knob, Luggage Net, (4) Tie-Down Eyelets & cargo net, Retractable/Removable Rear Luggage Cover, Remote Power Locks Includes Trunk/Hatch, Cruise Control, Four Disc Brakes Including Four Ventilated Discs, Tinted Glass On Cabin, Front And Rear, Alloy Wheels With 16 Inch Rim Diameter, 7/8 Inch Rim Width, Tachometer, Driver Power Heated Door Mirror With Automatic Operation, Passenger Power Heated Door Mirror With Automatic Operation, Retractable Rearview Mirrors, Heated Washer, Rear Window With Defogger and Wiper, Remote Control & Remote Trunk/Hatch Release, Front Reading Lights, Leather Seat Upholstery With Additional Leather, Electrically Adjustable Driver And Passenger Seat With Height Adjustment, And Tilt Adjustment, Two Front Facing Rear Seats, Leather Covered Electrically Adjustable Steering Wheel With Tilt Adjustment And Telescopic Adjustment, Vehicle Speed Proportional Power Steering, Cargo Area Light.
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  2. RBM

    RBM Formula Junior

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    #2 RBM, Feb 24, 2014
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  3. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Jun 22, 2004
    78,221
    Danger Close at Moot Pointe, Gulf of America
    #3 Jack-the-lad, Feb 24, 2014
    As an old Porsche hand I think this is a beautiful car. I've never owned a water cooled Porsche as you can see from my profile. What is the hierarchy of desirability of the 928 variations?
     
  4. Dave1442397

    Dave1442397 Karting

    Feb 11, 2007
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    Cherry Hill, NJ
    #4 Dave1442397, Feb 25, 2014
    Beautiful car. As far as desirability, this one would be one of the top choices. Here's a post I snagged from another site listing some of the differences between model years:

    Looking just 5sp models made between '87 and '91 model years, there are really five or six different versions depending on how one counts them.

    '87-'88 S4 manual without or with 40% LSD
    - In US models 5th gear is tallish 2.20:1

    '89 S4 manual without or with 40% LSD
    - Basically same as previous except gearing was 2.63:1, '87-'88 ROW S4 use this same gearing
    - Dash was changed to more modern digital version at beginning of MY
    - There were made only up to point when GT arrived and only about 50 US models exist making them rarer than '89 GT

    '89 GT, always manual with 40% LSD
    - Different cams, pistons and LH & EZK programing result 10 hp more
    - More important thing than those 10 hp is that gearing is shorter 2.73:1
    - There were other more minor differences also like shorter gear lever
    - M474 sport suspension might have been stock

    '90 GT, always manual with PSD
    - Only really new thing was PSD and airbags, except in ROW cars where bags became standard little later
    - M474 definitelly optional this point forward as it was in S4

    '91 GT, always manual with PSD
    - Changes to power steering, sound insulation and different gear knop

    Value conscious choice is S4 with LSD. PSD is more modern technology but in my opinion is not alone worth the cost difference from S4 to GT. If you on other hand want to have digital dash you either have to find '89 S4 from somewhere or settle for GT. In both cases its going to cost more than earlier S4. Its all up to you if it makes sense to spend more $$$$.
     
  5. Zeus

    Zeus Formula 3
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    #5 Zeus, Feb 25, 2014
    Don't know why you would start with model year '87. Many 928 enthusiasts consider some of the earlier models as desirable as the last GTs produced. Personally, I have had at least one or two 928's in my stable for over 30 years, all Euros and all 5 speeds, and my all-time favorite 928 is the '85 Euro 5 speed (it introduced ABS one year before the US models).
     
  6. David_S

    David_S F1 World Champ
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    #6 David_S, Feb 25, 2014
    Dearly miss my '87 S4. Mine was an early one with the folding rear spoiler.

    Best wishes on your sale & hope it finds a happy new owner.
     
  7. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Jun 22, 2004
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    #7 Jack-the-lad, Feb 25, 2014
    Thanks for the info, David. It sounds like, at least among the later cars, the GT is the most desirable, with the S4 a close second.
     
  8. RBM

    RBM Formula Junior

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    #8 RBM, Feb 25, 2014
    I concur with this list, if you are just considering MY 1987-1991. In the 928 Universe writ large (US models), the hierarchy is:

    1. 1993-1995 GTS
    2. 1989-1991 GT
    3. 1987-1989 S4
    4. 1986 S (16V)
    5. 1982-1985 S
    6. 1978-1981 928 (plain)

    Right now, The 5-speed manual cars trump the automatics hands down, and it's reflected in market prices. It's the only important option/discriminator. LSD is vary rare, and is easy to add later. Rear A/C is desirable in Southern markets, but has reliability issues, and is expensive to repair. Digital dash was gimmicky back then, and has become more of a maintenance liability now. Sunroof delete and rear wiper delete are extremely rare on US models after 1986.

    For pure power, the pre-86 Euros were popular on the Grey Market in the 80's. The '86 became a World Car, with little difference between US and Euro specs.
     
  9. 355dreamer

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    #9 355dreamer, Feb 25, 2014
    For my money, I love the early cars.

    I would take a 78.

    The OPs car is beautiful. Best of luck with the sale.
     
  10. Schatten

    Schatten F1 World Champ
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    #10 Schatten, Feb 25, 2014
    Great year, great example! Wish my 79 928 looked that good but it is very far from it!
     
  11. ARTNNYC

    ARTNNYC F1 Rookie
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    #11 ARTNNYC, Feb 26, 2014
    Its amazing but these cars still look contemporary today. great design
     
  12. WJHMH

    WJHMH Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #12 WJHMH, Feb 26, 2014
    To me this design is timeless, such a good looking Porsche.
     
  13. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    #13 BigTex, Feb 26, 2014
    Jack the Lad,

    I'd be glad to drive it down to you!

    But you are over Austin way, every now and then. IIRC??
     
  14. ross

    ross Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #14 ross, Feb 26, 2014
    i had a 928s4 auto. it was a marvelous car. always wanted to get a gts, but moved on to fcars.
     
  15. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Jun 22, 2004
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    #15 Jack-the-lad, Feb 26, 2014
    Thanks for the generous offer!:)

    Yes, I have family in Austin and also in Wichita Falls.

    Jack
     
  16. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    #16 Jack-the-lad, Feb 26, 2014
    Bob,

    This is a great ad. A very informative presentation which assumes an audience of informed enthusiasts, without a lot of bombast about the car and hype about "the market." Well done!
     
  17. David_S

    David_S F1 World Champ
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    #17 David_S, Feb 26, 2014
    Back in the day, the 928 S4 in auto form was the quickest car on the planet from something like 60 to 90.
     
  18. M. Brandon Motorcars

    M. Brandon Motorcars Formula 3
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    Sep 4, 2007
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    #18 M. Brandon Motorcars, Feb 26, 2014
    Wow. Love a 5-speed 928. Beautiful colors too. GLWS.
     
  19. RBM

    RBM Formula Junior

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    #19 RBM, Feb 26, 2014
    Thanks Michael! BTW, when did you get into the car business? I have not been to TWS or any LSR events in Houston since I moved to Austin.

    Bob
     
  20. RBM

    RBM Formula Junior

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    #20 RBM, Feb 27, 2014
    Thanks Much! I greatly appreciate that. A "nice ad" post is just as rewarding as a "nice car" post. I try to write my ads the way I want to read them, with all the important facts, and none of the subjective opinion. I try to advertise in venues where the car is recognized for what it is, without a lot of explanation and hyperbole. As you mentioned, targeting the right audience goes a long way to creating a good ad.
     
  21. jmbarba76

    jmbarba76 Formula Junior

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    #21 jmbarba76, Feb 27, 2014
    I had an 87 auto, it wasn't quick off the line but once rolling it was a rocket back in the day. Had some trans issues with mine. If it was a 5 speed I would still have it. Fun car for sure. Glws
     
  22. RBM

    RBM Formula Junior

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    #22 RBM, Feb 28, 2014
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  23. ebehrendsen

    ebehrendsen Karting

    Sep 26, 2007
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    #23 ebehrendsen, Mar 1, 2014
    I have the exact car, but with blue piping on the seats and mine is an auto. Great, Great Cars! Best of luck with the sale!
     
  24. RBM

    RBM Formula Junior

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    #24 RBM, Mar 4, 2014
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  25. AndrewJM

    AndrewJM Formula Junior

    Jun 18, 2012
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    Norfolk, VA
    #25 AndrewJM, Mar 7, 2014
    That is a very nice looking 928. Have you considered posting it to the Rennlist classifieds? May generate a lot of interest there, as it has a huge 928 crowd.
     
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