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Discussion in 'Ferraris' started by 97diablo, Sep 12, 2018.

  1. Must see the interview we did with Piero Ferrari in Maranello! https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/news/297
  1. MaseratiMike

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    Wow... look in the mirror dude. Grow up you arrogant Moron.
     
  2. 97diablo

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    Again, your not worth my time.
     
  3. henryr

    henryr F1 World Champ
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    serious question -

    this is an 88... this has the concave wheels like the 88.5 328s ......

    was there an 88.5 mondial with improvements ?
     
  4. 97diablo

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    I apologize but I am no expert on the Mondial. Im sure one of the other Fchat members that have more experience can answer that question.
    I have owned several Ferraris, just no knowledge on the Mondial.
     
  5. 2cam

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    The Mondial had these wheels fitted as stock with the introduction of ABS in 1987. The upside is that they're 16" rims and not the metric rims that require the TRX tires.

    2cam
     
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  6. 2cam

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    Diablo,

    I'm really sorry that this thread has become so contentious. You really don't deserve the abuse on this.

    If you have a Carfax, it might help to post a copy of it and let potential buyers make their own judgement on whether the car is for them or not. The car is what it is. It looks like it has the potential to be a good driver example to me.

    2cam
     
  7. 19633500GT

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    If you can find the TRX's, they are costly, and frankly a poor tire for a fun driving touring 4-seater. Like driving on ice-cubes lol
     
  8. 97diablo

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    Thank you for the post and I agree. It's a great

    Thank you for the kind words 2cam. The car truly is a nice solid vehicle.
     
  9. BigTex

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    The first wheels are concave.

    This is an 1988 with CONVEX wheels which was changed to allow for ABS on the Mondial and the GTB/S.
    It may or may not indicate the presence of the ABS system.
    It just means the Factory got the new wheels and started using them.

    Look it's all well and good to discuss the car, I am not a Mod but weighed in earlier on the Title discussion.
    I note there are NO screen grabs, nno incident date for the devaluing event, just talk???

    And, there will be a Mod along because name calling is not allowed in the Website,
    And you might look at the guidlelines for market value discussions, here.
    OK only if asked for by the seller.

    1988.5 is a designation for the VERY last 328s....and while it does related vaguely to the ANS and suspension geometry modifications, it's never made it to a State title that I have ever seen. The lady at the Tax Office, NEWS FLash: She does not give a *&^(*&.

    The fact he is telling you about "drive feel" indicates to me, this probably does have the last suspension mods, if not the ABS system option itself...HTH

    Carry on....
     
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  10. BigTex

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    I will also say as far as the high quality but very soft leather of Ferrari interiors is concerned, it's age in years as well as use.

    We can see relatively new cars, 458s and so forth, with the side bolsters marked and worn because it's all but impossible to enter with out it.
    These seats are more like a sofa! LOL!

    And as usual the driver's seat shows some pretty good usage (in thirty YEARS!) but the rest of them are in fine shape to my eye.
    $500 still buys a lot in a Trim Shop, here down South
     
  11. BigTex

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    Don't get so wound up over a $20K deal......I don't see how you could go wrong really.

    And ScaleDetails as he said has owned more Mondials than I can count.
    It looks like he kept track of them.....
     
  12. ylshih

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    Advertisers can be banned when posting on their own ad. Report offenses, do not respond to them.

    This is more opinion than fact. Permanent thread ban.

    You actually reported the advertiser for making "personal remarks" but didn't notice the 3 personal remarks you made yourself????

    3-day site ban.
     
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  13. gsfent

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    Why limit yourself to 1 at a time?? ;)

    Free bump for seller.

    Regards,
    Jerry
     
  14. 2cam

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    After all of the insanity of this thread, I decided to run a Carfax on the car to address my own personal curiosity. The Carfax does state that there was a severe accident and that a salvage title was issued on the car in 1992. As we all know, Carfax can be less-than-perfect. However, at least we know that it is on there.

    The car is what it is. Go into the purchase with your eyes wide open, set your expectations accordingly, and it's unlikely that you'll be disappointed. The car still looks as if it would make a good, solid, driver-quality car - especially if you're able to do much of the work yourself. Just be aware that an exit may be more difficult with the Carfax history.

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  15. Scaledetails

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    Thanks for that. I am one of those that doesn't get scared away from a salvage history Ferrari. I've owned many that were in better condition as a result, and drove just like they should. I can't imagine this Ferrari wasn't put together correctly way back then. Still looks the part today.
    I would if I wasn't so limited on space. ;)
     
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    Agreed. I'm almost a little bit embarrassed for some of the comments posted here. As an observer with no skin in the game, I'll summarize it this way;

    $23K red/tan Ferrari - MY 1988

    Joe
     
  17. 97diablo

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    Sold!! Thank you for all the interest.
     
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  18. 2cam

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    Congratulations to the new owner! I hope that they have a wonderful time with the car!

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    #69 Meister, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:05 PM
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    This car ended up in my garage. Car has needs for sure. Interior carpet and seats redone, wheels repainted and new tires and of course updated service. But for the entry point ($) even with the history and it's needs, IMO not a whole lot of downside. A quick look at the car on the lift I can't find an obvious or glaring frame repairs or signs of damage. According to the report something happened in 1992 and most likely we will never know what that was. Car was still fairly new with 7K miles and may not have taken much damage to trigger the insurance equation for "totaling" it. Hood alone at the time could have been $20k. Either way its a living breathing red/tan 3.2 which drives nice and most system work. Report also mentions it was serviced and Ferrari/Mas of Atlanta after 1992 and also have some leads that it was worked on by Tim Stafford's shop too. So someone thought it was worthy or keeping up after 1992. Fresh oil last night, fresh gearbox oil tonight, slowly addressing it's issues and needs as we head into winter. The car is what it is. It will never set the benchmark for resale but it's by no means unsaleable down the road. There were many people trying to get it as, I just got there first and there will certainly be a buyer down the road when/if I decide to move on.
     
  20. 2cam

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    Congratulations! It sounds like the car has found the perfect home - someone that accepts the car for what it is and a willingness to make the needed improvements to fully enjoy the car. Have fun with it!!!

    2cam
     
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  21. henryr

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    it was repaired by autometrics - they do quality work
     
  22. Scaledetails

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    If in fact Tim Stanford even touched it, the car was a great buy. This guy is a genius with Ferraris. Congrats to the new owner.
     
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  23. Cadillacbart

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    Congrats! Well bought, period.
     
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  24. Cigarzman

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    Bro , really. Why don’t you get some business and mind it. Have a nice day. Best , Kirk
     
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  25. 97diablo

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    Glad it went to a good home!!
     

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