1993 Ferrari Mondial t Valeo

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  1. alexion

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    Yes, Hank and I have spoken on several occasions. He certainly provides some great details about ownership experience in the threads on FChat as well.

    I think the biggest misconception with this car is that people think of it as an F1 gear box. It operates exactly like a 5-speed, in fact it is the same transmission. The only difference is an actuator engages the clutch instead of your left foot. It's actually a really cool concept.
     
  2. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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    This one day will be a collectible model for reasons stated. But for now people like sticks, look at the premiums paid for various models that are rare sticks.
     
  3. Stentboy

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    It is a stick, it's just missing a peddle.
     
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  4. alexion

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    The car is a stick shift 5-speed. The ONLY difference is there is no clutch pedal. When your hand touches the shift lever, microprocessors send a signal to the actuator which engages the clutch. The microprocessors are a lot faster than our left foot.
     
  5. 8500rpm

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    I wonder if the F1's nasty reputation comes from people driving it like an automatic and burning up clutches.

    Given that the Valeo preserves the gated shifter, its driver could not possibly pretend he was driving an auto.

    Very interesting car, BTW. Didn't know that the US got Valeo cars.
     
  6. 8500rpm

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    It's pricey, for one thing, and there is no way to "analyse" a market of 15 cars to determine a "reasonable value."

    That said, very interesting bit of Ferrari history and I hope the car finds the right buyer.
     
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  8. WJC

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    I get it - I just figured there would be someone out there that would be interested!

    I would love it - but I live in the city with no third parking spot and not willing to rent one.
     
  9. alexion

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    I agree with the fact that it if hard to analyze a market with so few examples. The last known example was owned by an FChat member and sold for $75,000 in 2015, confirmed. His car had 10k more miles although it was in equally nice condition. They have sold for much more money in Europe, but I don't think that's a fair comparison. That said, I know the market has softened a bit since 2015 and I have adjusted my ask accordingly. I am open to reasonable offers, but I will not give it away.
     
  10. sixcarbs

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    The Valeo definitely carries a premium over a non-Valeo Mondial. Today, not just in the future.

    Take any 2 Mondial T's of similar mileage, condition, and service history and the Valeo is worth more.
     
  11. alexion

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    Still available folks and can be seen at Scuderia Rampante. Dave would be able to provide a detailed overview of the car as it's been in his possession. I would advise, serious parties only as his time is precious.

    Obviously the pictures you see here don't do the car justice which is likely the reason why its still for sale and as it's in Colorado and I'm in NY, I can't readily snap some new photos.

    $64,995 Or Best Offer!
     
  12. eswilly

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    I still get mesmerized by the old videos.
    I swear that has to be a great addition to any collection. I know rarity does not completely determine value but this auto is worth every penny.


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  13. alexion

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    Thanks, I’d like to think so myself. Some lucky person will get a very special car.


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  15. alexion

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    Price update: $59,995


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  16. alexion

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    One thing I have not considered until now are trades...Full or partial are within the realm of possibility. Let's see what you got!
     
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  17. alexion

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    I am posting this link for comparative purposes. This is not my car: http://www.gatewayclassiccars.com/louisville/1993/ferrari/mondial-S1619.html

    I understand that not having the car in my possession and being able to take new pictures is an issue. To reiterate, the car is at Scuderia Rampante for the winter, where a ppi can be performed and any questions can be asked.

    My car has close to 10k less miles, interior is in much better condition, and is fully serviced and ready to go. Any of the pain points these cars experience have been resolved by me.
     

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