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  1. dpd

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    #1 dpd, Dec 29, 2004
    found 2 cars(1985 400i 5 speed 12,000 miles and 412 5 speed 9,000 miles).drained the gas tanks the oil and changed the filters. new battery, now i am ready to fire up the 412 any other ideas what to do or what odd things to expect from a f car not run in 10 years --thanks in advance
     
  2. Glassman

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    #2 Glassman, Dec 29, 2004
    I would make sure that they turn over by hand before trying the starter. I would also get some oil or Marvel Oil in each cylinder. And expect the worst.
     
  3. RickDay246

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    #3 RickDay246, Dec 29, 2004
    Pull all the plugs. Spray a small amount of WE-40 or other flammable lubricant in the holes. Turn engine over with a socket/ratchet by hand at the crank, or "bump" it with the starter. Also, spray some "igniter" into the carbs or FI system. Likely it's gummed up and won't be pretty. While grounding a plug, any plug, have someone bump the starter, make sure you've got spark.
     
  4. RickDay246

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    #4 RickDay246, Dec 29, 2004
    EOM
     
  5. f355spider

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    #5 f355spider, Dec 29, 2004
    Do check the archives as well, there has been several threads on this in the past couple years.

    Dave
     
  6. amorlando

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    #6 amorlando, Dec 29, 2004
    With the cars sitting that long, there may be corrosion on the cylinder walls. If cranked-up, the corrosion might/could damage the piston rings. I suggest you or a mechanic use a boroscope to inspect each cylinder before starting that puppy up!

    KevFla
     
  7. tbakowsky

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    #7 tbakowsky, Dec 29, 2004
    squirt a good amount of oil in the cylinders through the plug holes. Leave the plugs out, and spin her over with the starter a few revolutions. Repeat a cople of times. On the third try, roll the enigne over with the starter until you see the oil pressure gauge start to move. Now reinstall the plugs and hit the starter. She should go.

    Obviously..disconnect the fuel pump (pull the relay) and disconnect the the ignition coils (usually I just remove the negative terminal from the coils) before doing any of the above.

    You WILL here clattering from the timing chain area. If it does not go away within a few seconds (count 10 to 15 sec) shut her down. The let it sit, and try again about 5 minutes later..
     
  8. dpd

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    #8 dpd, Dec 30, 2004
    well these two cars were in a aircraft hanger for the last 10 years
    there is also a 512bb in there he wanted to keep, he had bought them new and they have been in nevada since new. he wanted more room for another airplane so i was able to make a great deal on the two 400's both for less the 18k. so thats how i became an fcar owner-
     
  9. BigTex

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    #9 BigTex, Dec 30, 2004
    Rock on dude!!

    NV should be a pretty low corrosion environment........

    Good luck!

    Report back and post some pics...this classifys as a 'barn find' for sure...

    "Hanger find"????

    Is there an old P-51 in there? LOL!
     
  10. Varenne

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    #10 Varenne, Dec 30, 2004
    Damn,

    How come I never meet anybody lke that. Congratulations - assuming the surprises you uncover (and there will be surprises) aren't too serious, you've got two great GT cars at an great price.

    All you gotta do now (besides work on the cars) are two things:

    1) Fill out your profile, and;
    2) POST SOME PICS !

    Congratulations,

    Mark
     
  11. BigTex

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    #11 BigTex, Dec 30, 2004
    A carburated 512bb?

    Talk to me!

    Way cool.........
     
  12. atheyg

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    #12 atheyg, Dec 30, 2004
    Where in Nevada?

    What year was the BB and how did it look?

    If you talk to him again tell him about fchat, we can help him on the BB and I am located in Vegas I have a carbed BB also, the BB needs to be ran otherwise its going to be a wreck in a few more years.
     
  13. CMY

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    #13 CMY, Dec 30, 2004
    I bet he's driving around in these cars by the end of the week. The dumb luck has to hold out at least that long.

    -Chris
     
  14. f355spider

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    #14 f355spider, Dec 30, 2004
    Take a video of the start up....I wanna see that!! ;)
     
  15. dpd

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    #15 dpd, Dec 30, 2004
    first ---thanks to all who replied
    well it was pretty stright foward,taking in all advice i prep it then turned the key -herd the relays clicking the fuel pumps start 10 second crank stop
    next try turn the key 20 seconds stop---next try it started-first at low rpm
    then about a minute up to 1000rpm steady idle. shut it down check oil ect...
    it all looked ok.It fired right up the next time- let i run a little longer noticed
    what looked like water vapor coming from the cam cover buy a spark plug hole
    then no more-could be the aged gasget that was dry?stopped the motor
    check things, found a little water oil mix(white stuff on the bottom of the oil filler cap cleaned it off and ran it for about 20 minutes and nothing more of water oil mix.i willl drain the oil and change filters before i fire it up next to see amount (if any ) of water in the oil. i do not think i am out of the woods yet---he gave me the wrong key for the 400i hes looking for it so its fire up (i hope ) will be a week or two off

    the 512bb ( not sure what year or if had carbs, just pumped the tires and pushed it out of the way- it is silver/tan)the guy did not want to sell the car i did try to purchase it
    he has a ton of cash and could care less about cars but he was sure
    that he did not want to sell (at this time i didnt want to push it)
    buy the way he set the price on the 400&412 i would of paid more
    but this time i keep my big mouth shut-that worked out so well that i am trying not to talk at all,maby it will pay off too(LOL)
    photos to you all soon
    thanks
    dan
     
  16. f355spider

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    #16 f355spider, Dec 31, 2004
    Simply AWESOME news!! Please post pics as soon as possible. :)
     

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