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2 Ferraris on the list - The Most Collectible Cars of the Future

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Buxton, Jan 2, 2011.

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  1. Buxton

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  3. The Red Baron

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    Interesting, however there are a lot of collectible cars out there that I believe have more potential than most of those cars on the list.
    There are no Maserati, Osca, Cisitalia, Alfa, etc, etc listed and the only Bugatti he has listed will never be a collectible car at the cost of maintaining it each year.
    Like to see a half decent list someday.
     
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    that list was horribly wrong, i love all the cars there but that doesn't make them more collectible than others.
     
  6. FerrariF50lover

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    I think that list is false for the most part. The only cars that IMO will be on that list are Ford GT, select vipers, F40 and Enzo.
     
  7. stradman

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    Have you ever seen how much a Mclaren costs to maintain?? Three times as expensive as an F40 maintenance! Didn't stop it from appreciating though. Collectors at this level, simply don't take this cost into consideration if they want such car. And YES the Bugatti will become very collectable one day soon......
     
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    Dont agree with that - I'm sure the Veyron will be "collected" in 10 years time
    Cant see how the Reventon is considered the most collectable recent Lamborghini, I would put the LP670SV and DiabloGT above it
     
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    #9 Tipo815, Jan 3, 2011
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    "Collectibility" takes into consideration (among other things) the number of units produced. The Reventon is collectible by the pure fact that it was produced in very limited numbers. I agree that the Veyron will be a collectible regardless of maintenance costs and that the 430s and 458s of the world will never be collectibles since they are production cars. As is the case with any list of this kind there is a large degree of personal opinion here which is why it should be taken with a grain of salt.
     
  10. Hawkeye

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    as an investment discussion (in part) they may be also considering the cost basis to acquire each car as measured against where it could go in 20 years. So, in that case, percentage wise, an F40 could easily outperform, say, a 250 GTO.
     
  11. The Red Baron

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    Yes I agree the McLaren in my opinion should be on that list. Today though not at the No1 position. Probably the McLaren is one of the best ever cars made.
     
  12. Mr. Francesco

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    I agree with half of the list.
     
  13. JeremyJon

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    not a very good list IMO

    to state "vipers" will be a collectors car is broad...properly done should list what specific model(s) might become future collectible & why
    IMO the race/lemans versions or first GTS and maybe ACR versions will have future value

    the saleen s7 is missing from the list, IMO is a future collectible being a proven fast & well built american supercar, especially the raced models

    IMO there are so many factory "specials" now-a-days, it's hard to know exactly what will be?


    the mclaren F1 and bugatti veyron will of course be, given thier status already are, and thus maintain values

    i agree that it's recently produced cars of limited produced, that become "collector" status and will most likely ascend in value
    as for Ferraris the F40 already one, likely the 599 gto will be
    the corvette zr1 (both models) likely
    the maserati mc1, only 50 made
     
  14. h2oskier

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    I think it's a solid list.
    Ford GT still MSRP roughly with 1000's made and have crept up a touch this year

    ZR1 tough to argue with a car with those numbers priced almost 1/3rd of a 458

    Viper I read on another list that they specified the ACR which is their top dog. Possibly one of the worst cars I've ever driven but I can understand collectibility. Sheesh have you seen what those crazy Chargers sell for.

    Enzo my least favorite on the group but they've done great in holding value with many followers.

    F40 has crept up this year in value

    Reventon only 20 were made. Yes those will hold value although the new Murci whatever the name they give it will probably spank it in all performance category's.

    CGT imho the best car on the list.

    Mclaren just all around fantastic car and the first true super car I believe.

    SLR Mclaren I don't get. Overpriced and Overdone with some new ones still sitting on dealer floors 150k over market price. I guess the only car I don't think should be on that list.

    I read another that had the BMW Z8 included which I believe is a solid car for a collection as well, despite their computer issues. I'd also love to have one of those.
     
  15. Buxton

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    I believe they intended to consider only relatively modern cars, but then again several like the McLaren are quite old.
     
  16. modena1_2003

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    I'm not sure you can make this list definitive, by any means.
    You have those cars that trade hands with enthusiasts quite often based on a cult-like love of the car. Case in point, the 993 Turbo, Stradale, BBi, CSL etc. Then you have cars that are held onto, that you just don't see being sold. CLK-GTR, XJ220, GT1, 333SP etc.

    As far as what will be "collectible," there are numerous cars that I'm sure will be very desired in the future. I can see the F50 going up in value, the Bugatti Grand Sport, SLR 722, Zonda F etc...

    The vintage Corvette's are very desirable, yet separate from the Daytona's and DB5's. I don't think the Vette's are going to go very far for the next generation. The Viper and Shelby Mustangs will take that place. Modern special edition Vette's like the ZR1 will retain some collectability, but you have to understand that for all practical conversation, the muscle-car enthusiast has died in the new generations. Don't be surprised in 30 years when collectors go for R34 Skyline's and GT3 RS's.


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    Honestly, they should have only had 3 cars on that list... the first three.
     
  18. modena1_2003

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    I don't think you've thought this through.

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    It takes exceptional skills (and more importantly balls) to pilot a viper at or near its limits. Only with those skills is a driver able to appreciate what that particular car has to offer. Take off its handicaps in racing and it will murder any comparable car Europe has to offer.
     
  20. h2oskier

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    It does take serious skills but not the typical racing skills to pilot a viper. They were built for straightline speed and the corner grip was thrown in later. I raced cars many years and will still say the same thing. It will always be one of the worst cars I've ever driven. Yes a handful (maybe) of guys in the world can pilot one well. It's not all about balls. The car needs to speak with it's driver and Vipers say nothing to me. What ticks me off most is I kind of like the looks and wish they spoke more to me. Dodge has never made something interesting besides the Vipers and it disappoints me.
     
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    Another article probably written in a haste by an uneducated journalist.

    If the 288 GTO isn't mentioned, the article is clueless.
     
  22. Bill S

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    I'm not sure if McKeel Hagerty, CEO of Hagerty Insurance, would be considered an uneducated journalist.

    Still his opinion, of course, but certainly an educated opinion.
     
  23. h2oskier

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    This is all about future collectibles. I believe the 288 gto is already a collectible. With 3 or so available for purchase in the world I'd call them highly collectible myself. :)
     
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    Car values are driven by the demand of enthusiasts. I do not think that is something an accountant or insurance underwriter can predict. You would have to have your finger on the pulse of the enthusiast community and be able to make an educated guess on the opinions of a future generation. This is a social science, not a financial issue.
     
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    #25 Mapleton, Jan 6, 2011
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    In a sense yes. The "money" is still heavily slanted towards cars from the 1940s to 1960s still. I think the 288 and even the F40's best times are ahead. They have not reached their pinnacle of collectible popularity yet.

    Just like one day prices on 1960s American muscle cars will drop dramatically because the demographic that fuels the prices in that category of vehicles will be either too old or will have passed on. The "demographic dominance" will have passed from those who grew up in that time period to a later time period. Prices in luxury collectibles are mostly fueled by nostalgia.

    I still think of a 288 as a contemporary car, not classic yet. Give it another 20 years.
     

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