2002 360 asr issue and more

Sorry to hear about your trouble. Time for a tow truck and a visit with an SD.

 

I take it from the winter storage that you are in Ontario Canada and not Ontario CA.
Alan

 

Isn't there something in the manual about all three coming on at the same time?


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Corroded or loose ground strap or alternator cable?

 

Thinking the same !

 

check your battery connections, I got stranded 3 times with same symptoms until I fixed the battery connections, in my case they had been butchered by previous owner for a radio install, but if they are loose you will get those symptoms.

 

damn! good catch! You saved yourself alot of money and heartache.

 

is it just me or is it weird that the traction & tranny lights came on for an engine problem? Seems really weird that you got those instead of a CEL....

 

Luigi-Is this the port (left facing forward) or starboard (right facing forward) bank of cylinders? There is a technical bulletin for replacing the tensioner fastening bolts on the port (left) side cylinder bank.

Should not really affect tensioner operation, but worth checking to see if it was done.
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Probably a bad wheel speed sensor.


Your perceived tensioner problem is not the cause.


What makes you think you have a bad tensioner? Under certain circumstances they collapse. Just the way they work.


What made you look under a belt cover for an ASR/F1/Brake problem? That's like going to a podiatrist for chest pain.

 

What you are not telling him is that if he replaces the left tensioner he needs to replace the entire A/C mounting plate. Starts getting expensive.

But what the heck. He fixing to throw a lot of money at something that probably isn't a problem anyway.

 

Brian- That is what we need the pros for, to keep us from wasting money.

 

Oh but Terry, this place doesn't need us.


Just ask.....uh, you know.

 

Brian- Yup.

 

Just so i know for future reference Brian, the pulley being collapsed like that isn't an issue? I didnt think an engine problem would throw those lights but what about his 18 codes pulled? thanx!

 

I was going to say.. An asr light for a collapsed tensioner? That makes no sense.

I would have thought wheel sensor or logic board perhaps..

 

A suspension warning light is seldom if ever related to an ASR light whereas an ASR and ABS light is almost always in conjunction with an F1 light. If there is no understanding of the operation and interaction of the systems diagnosis is a matter of divine guidance.


Nope.
Often collapsed at rest. Normal condition. Again, an understanding of how they work, not just why they exist, is required.

 

On any 360 that hasn't seen regular, qualified service having the scanner light up like a Christmas tree isn't all that unusual. The problem arises when the codes are taken as problems. They are not. They are raw data to be used to follow a trail to the underlying problem and that can only be done with an understanding of how the systems work and their interactions. It also requires someone familiar enough with the car to know which should just be ignored and which to believe.


I still can't figure out the logic path for an ASR light to a bad tensioner.

 

Muffler bearing linking the two starts squeaking and that sets a harmonic vibration in the car that localizes and vibrates fuse #46 out of its socket. Very simple really.