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2004 Mas Coupe Nero/Tan 3900 miles

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  1. jet2911

    jet2911 Karting

    May 4, 2005
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    Hello,
    I have the opportunity to buy a 2004 Maserati Cambio Coupe, F1, Nero/Tan int with 3900 miles. The car is still under warrantee. The seller wants to sell for US$ 49,500. I would be a buyer, but am skeptical of the low price. The car is still under factory warranty, and may need the "major service" (how much????) - what do you all think? Thanks!
     
  2. jet2911

    jet2911 Karting

    May 4, 2005
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    Update:
    The car had been listed on ebay, and apparently I was "outbid" at the last minute. But Seller wants to sell again. The car is on Md. Anyone know this vehicle? Thanks.
     
  3. Fred2

    Fred2 F1 World Champ
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    The Major Service is no big deal on these cars.

    Make sure it has a clean car fax, and have it inspected to make sure it was not in an accident.
     
  4. dsd

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    Price is reasonable
     
  5. GatorFL

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    I'd be interested.
     
  6. jonesdds

    jonesdds Formula 3

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    Seems cheap for this car, isn't it? What were they brand new, $80K plus? That's depreciation. This is a car I've always liked but would prefer a manual(maybe even less cost to buy?) I've been curious what maintenance on these cars is like? Ferrari like or less? Can someone satisfy my curiosity?

    Jeff
     
  7. jonesdds

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  8. taptd

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    The maintenance is much less than a Ferrari. We've owned both over time and the Maserati is hands down a cheaper car to "own" and maintain. Clutches TYPICALLY last longer as do the tires.

    My wife put new tires on her 05 Gransport after 9000 miles. My biz partner has a 2004 Coupe with 14k miles with the original set of tires. He did have the clutch replaces at about 10k miles, but they ended up covering it under warranty.

    The sticker on this 04, which was mine, was 92,700 (coupe). The local dealer here has an 04 for about 55k. They drop a LOT but are great cars.
     
  9. jonesdds

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    So you're saying the car this guy is selling was yours or did I not understand you correctly?

    My thought is these cars are plummeting after purchase but then depreciation will begin to slow quite a bit on a car like this. If you could go 100K miles without serious and very expensive problems this would be quite a lot of car for $49K I'd think.

    Jeff
     
  10. jonesdds

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    Also, manuals, more or less expensive? Are they rare?

    Jeff
     
  11. Fred2

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    Manuals are MUCH harder to find than CC cars.
    They seem to sell much faster in the secondary market.

    While the CC is more expensive to buy new, the M/T seems to sell at a premium.
    Of course, given the rarity of these cars, it is hard to give an absolute.
     
  12. ty (360mode)

    ty (360mode) Formula Junior

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    that price isn't low, it's fair retail if it checks out clean and the clutch isn't fried. a "friend of a friend" had an '05 coupe w appx 9k miles that they wanted mid-upper $40's. i wouldn't touch one out of warranty but as long as you have some warranty, it's a lot of car for the money.

    ps - get the tubi if it doesn't have it already, sounds fantastic! better than a 360 i had w tubi, IMO.
     
  13. jonesdds

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    Does the factory offer an extended 100K warranty? Might be worthwhile as long as it's not priced too high. I guess there's no way to know the reliability of these cars in the higher miles given the rarity, lack of high mileage driving and limited time. Highest mile car I've seen for sale is in the mid 30's .
     
  14. ty (360mode)

    ty (360mode) Formula Junior

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    car only has 3900 miles on it so unless he's planning on driving 24/7, he's got a ways to worry about high-mileage problems ;) t

    i can't think of anything else i'd rather get in this price range than a maserati - a lot of cars are faster but none have that addictive italian soul. primary problem is that there are so few out there, not like you have 1000 to pick from like a 996 or something.
     
  15. Rusty G.

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    I've got an '05 CC, and it's a whole lot of car for the money. It's got the Ferrari derived 4200cc engine and F1 transmission, which is fantastic. I've heard of people having problems with the F1 paddle shift, but it just takes getting used to it, just like any other transmission.

    Every time I get in it, I feel great. It sounds fantastic and it gives me as much feel of the road as I need. I agree with the above poster about Tubi. My Maser has a tubi and that's one of the things people tell me about the car. . .it sounds so sweet.

    There is a little difference between the '05 and '04, but not much, and nobody will know the difference. Once again, a whole lot of car for the money. I guess we just don't appreciate them as much over here in the U.S. as they do in Europe. For a comparison, check out the costs of a coupe' at www.classicdriver.com

    Good luck!
     
  16. taptd

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    Sorry - no that is not my former car. My business partner still has my former car. Totally to agree with the Tubi, i did have tubi on mine and its makes a world of difference, however, i still think my 360 with tubi sounded better!!! But the coupe sounds great with it on there. its not that expensive of an option.

    the 6spd's are more rare. Speaking to my local dealer, they were usually with fewer options as well. If you've never driven a CC, drive one. i was VERY hesitant getting one. I was coming from a 355 spider with 6sp into the CC and swore i'd never want one. well once you learn to drive it hard the cc tranny's are great. just ALWAYS drive it in sport mode!

    also, make sure you get the read out on the clutch wear from the dealer first. if its really low, make them replace the clutch as part of the deal. they are great cars and overall the coupe has had VERY little problems. most just minor errors on some sensors that were just annoyances and nothing actually wrong.
     
  17. jonesdds

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    My wife's got a M3 with SMG-2006-Even after many miles of driving I'd still want a manual. I assume not a lot of difference here. The only benefit is that she'd drive it too for the cc but I can't see a situation where we'd take mine over hers.....

    I guess what I'm saying is if could have a 2004 model for $45K give or take with 5K miles or so I'd be interested if my expenses would be in line with a M3 or the like for the next 100K.
     
  18. taptd

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    quick note on the smg over the cc. They are TOTALLY different beasts. My daily driver is an m5 with the smg. I had a m3 smg convertible as well and the m5's smg is better than the m3's it's still totally different than driving my wife's gransport with the cc tranny.

    What id strongly suggest is go drive both a CC and 6spd first to make sure what you like best.

    in regards to service costs. the Maserati will cost you more over 100k miles, i have no doubt about that. How much more, i guess it would be hard to put a # to it.

    figure doing the clutch ever 15-20k (at most), tires ever 15k miles, more expensive oil changes, and repairs out of warranty will cost more.

    does that mean the maserati isn't worth it. i wouldnt say tht either. the car is amazing. the m3 and the coupe are TOTALLY different cars and id drive the coupe over the m3 any day.
     
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  20. jonesdds

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    Is the cambiocorsa tranny the same as the F1 transmission in a comparable year/engined Fcar?

    Jeff
     
  21. taptd

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    they are comprable but not "exactly" the same.

    they do operate in virtually the same manner.

    again there are reasons that the f1 style is becoming more and more popular.

    look at the new Ferrari 430 Scuderia - 60 MILLISECOND shift times - the enzo is at 150MS and the 599 at 100ms... thats insanely fast shifts.
     
  22. Tmedia

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    I got rid of my black on tan '03 coupe cambio and trust me, if you've never driven the Maserati F1, you need too. I personally like manuals but was willing to give the F1 a shot and honestly it was awful. I felt like I could read a book in the amount of time it took reverse to hook up from neutral, and the upshifts were painfully slow. However, the down shifts with rev matching were very fun.

    Also, you will end up roasting those rear wheels if you aren't careful on the start. So easy to chirp in this car. Keep in mind resale is bad, and demand tends to be just as bad - thought not sure why as they are beautiful vehicles for less than $60k in most cases. In 8 months of ownership I never had a single problem with the car, not saying that's typical, but overall it was a good owner experience, minus the F1 of course.
     
  23. jet2911

    jet2911 Karting

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    Thanks to everyone for the info. Once again, this place is a great resource!
     
  24. taptd

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    do you not run in sport mode?
     

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