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2005 F430 F1 accumulator replacement

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  1. pattymelt3605

    pattymelt3605 Rookie

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    Can someone tell me how to replace the F1 accumulator on a 2005 Ferrari F430. Thanks.
     
  2. gqmd

    gqmd Rookie

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    I believe I had a post on this. Another member so recently had a post on this. I am not hone right now but I will try to find you the post. This fixed my problem with the yellow warning light.


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  3. flash32

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    Put car in neutral
    shut car off remove key
    pull f1 relay out
    release pressure from system using screw on power unit ( turn and then tighten quickly after pressure is released
    remove accumulator using either a channel lock or a universal three prong filter wrench ( some come off easy some you need a litttle force
    fill neck as much as you can with fluid
    put new accum on
    put relay back
    turn key on
    release pressure a few times by tunring screw on unit momentarily .. this only lets fluid flow from unit to reservoir .. keep cap on or else you will make a mess
    Once you did that .. bleed clutch using a tool like launch
    Then shift to first and reverse a few times
    all above without engine running
    Now is all sounds( pump cycles more than 2 mins and about 6 seconds ) and looks good - start car and test gear shifts again standing still
    Listen to pump again - sound good ?
    test drive
     
  4. brookliner7

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    Well, my approach was more simple.
    I let the car sit for a day or two to let the pressure bleed out of the system.
    used a set large universal oil filter channel locks to twist off accumulator.
    Topped it off where the accumulator screws into with f1 fluid I bought out my Ferrari dealer. used like maybe an ounce of it.
    Screwed on the new accumulator and tightened with the universal channel locks.
    Started it up , Ensured no leaks at the union.
    drove the car, and have been enjoying it for the past year.
     
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  5. flash32

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    Pretty much similar..I just like to take extra precautions not to get air into the actuator cuz that's a pain in the neck to remove

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  6. pattymelt3605

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  7. GogglesPisano

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    Wanted to kick this back up as I'm nearing time to replace my accumulator since I hear it working more often. What's everyone's go to source for these at a good price. I've seen everything from $350 to $1k which boggles my mind as they shouldn't be more than a few hundred.

    Side note, while searching for a deal, I found a Porsche clutch accumulator that looks identical but priced more reasonably at $130:

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    Makes me wonder if the two are actually identical or if there are some internal differences. It's not a complicated part and I would imagine it could even be sourced from the same supplier by Ferrari and Porsche as I doubt each have developed their own design.
     
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  8. mike32

    mike32 F1 Veteran

    May 13, 2016
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    Other thing you can do is grip new accumulator in the vice, inlet at top. Using something like a gas welding rod, dribble f1 fluid down the rod to fill up the accumulator fully.
     
  9. Extreme1

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    Jun 27, 2017
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    I need to change mine soon too.

    Are you guys removing the fluid from the old accumulator first? What are you using to do that?


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  10. flash32

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    As always ..i am a phone call away to help anyone

    Just Pm me

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  11. mike32

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    The oil will stay in the accumulator when you un screw it- just be sure the system has no pressure in it. If you remove the pump relay the night before , the pressure will drop off overnight. You can also operate the gears on an F1 to bleed off the pressure. It is a lot easier if you remove the wheel liner to get to the accumulator
     
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  12. Extreme1

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    Great, thx!


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  13. Mario Andretti

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    I will do my 2005 F430 F1 soon and post some pictures along the way. Might as well do it now as I'm not taking her out in winter; not for another 2 months or so.
     
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  14. Mercedes_Benz

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    Although this doesn't sound too hard. Someone needs to make a good video on it.
     
  15. GogglesPisano

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    They have:
     
  16. flash32

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    Unlike my procedure..his doesn't avoid getting air in system especially in actuator thru solenoids .. it is a good video to show overall removal but please follow procedure above

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  17. Mario Andretti

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    Don't believe all that you find in Google :)
     
  18. GogglesPisano

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    Thanks for the info on that. Some of us new owners mistakenly end up following bad procedure sometimes just because it's easily available.
     
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  19. Mario Andretti

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    Which screw is that ?
     
  20. Mercedes_Benz

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    I said good video.... He really did not show much on that video....
     
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  21. flash32

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  22. mike32

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    Taking the wheel liner out makes that screw a lot more accessible
     
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  23. Jaymac

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    Replying to this thread to follow up on the question about compatible alternative replacements for the accumulator. I’ve seen Maserati (or was it Alfa?) parts mentioned in the last, and am considering doing this soon on my 360.
    Thanks,
    Jeremy
     
  24. flash32

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    https://www.sequparts.com/product-category/ferrari/ferrari-f430/
     
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  25. Jaymac

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    Thanks Dominick!
     
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