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2005 F430 Gated Manual

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  1. Fougeee

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    #1 Fougeee, Jun 17, 2016
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  3. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Where is the car located??
     
  4. 3POINT8

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    nice looking ride
     
  5. Fougeee

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    Big Tex: Car is located in Minnesota.
     
  6. blkdiablo33

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    love the wheels glws
     
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  8. Philly

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    Is there a significant value difference between manual and f1 430s
     
  9. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Sure......the 430 being the last of the manual boxes, with CERTAIN owners, would be valued "differently".

    Probably not as large a spread as the 599GTB.

    Thanks and I forgot the "GLWS"!!
     
  10. jakeg104

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    Good luck! I've got your topless twin. 👍🏾


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  11. MM355

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    GLWS great looking car.
     
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  13. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Around 30% of 360s had three pedals, but most likely only 10-15% of the F430s had three pedals. No hard numbers available for the actual percentage.
     
  14. Philly

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    I just don't understand the ask $$
     
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  15. txitalia

    txitalia Formula Junior

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    Simple; manuals aren't made by Ferrari, anymore. Haven't since the 458's came out.

    Ferrari manuals are an especially wonderful experience in the 430's. For the purists, like me, the manuals are the ultimate expression driving skill. No DCT or PDK can equal it.

    You, apparently, don't share that appreciation.
     
  16. DonJuan348

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    People want what they can't buy any longer and now willing to pay thru the a$$ for it. Ferrari stop making manuals because there was no demand .
    Judging from previous cars sold he will probably get 175ish
     
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  18. Philly

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    I've got a 19 car collection with all manual gearboxes ... I've just not seen such a delta between manual and paddles before ... I was looking for information not judgement :(
     
  19. Racedrvr

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    If you go to Hagerty's site and check on values of 360's you will find they make a notation that the 3 pedal manuals command a premium of $50k over F1. No values currently exist for the 430's so it's whatever the market will bear.
     
  20. Ron328

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    I feel for you. You just have to ignore some of the manual crowd here. They get so defensive and emotional easily. It always turns into a heated F1 and manual debate.

    Anyway, hope this thread doesn't get derailed any further. Good luck to the seller. Very nice car.
     
  21. Remember the alamo

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    Beautiful car. GLWS. Will be interesting to see what the three pedal premium will be.
     
  22. Philly

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    Wow ... Haggerty does indeed bump valuation by $50k for third petal on 2000 360 ... Interesting ... I wonder if that's persists as f1 boxes improved ... Anyway I'm a big three petal guy with 04 GT3. 97 550 and one of only 91 maserati GT coupes in country w manual box ... GLWS
     
  23. phrogs

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    #20 phrogs, Jun 18, 2016
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    They also bump it up for the 355 manual cars, odd that they put a manual 355 the majority over the limited F1 cars. Not that I expect a F1 to be more id rather have a manual myself, but 50k

    Crazy, as I can swap my car competely over to a manual for way less than 50k and you wouldn't know the difference.
     
  24. Cinque

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    #21 Cinque, Jun 19, 2016
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    With the 430 since only approximately 10% of production were manual transmission cars, it is often assumed that there was very little demand originally for the manual cars. There are some original owners on here that tell a different story, as they say that at the time they ordered their 430, buyers were encouraged towards the F1 transmission.

    Some buyers that wanted a manual car were apparently told by their dealer that they couldn't guarentee that they would get another manual slot, but that they could get an F1 car. So with the 430's in particular the manual cars were not simply built to order, and there was buyer demand for new manual cars that was not met.
     
  25. ArmenVanquishS

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    Much less than a 10% rate world-wide...
    13-14% in the UK but in France it was only 1%.
    The world-wide rate should be around 5%, maximum.

    Stunning car by the way
    GLWS
     
  26. Grand Tour

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    Wait. You can do that?! How much do you figure it would cost?
     
  27. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Ferrari's F1 systems were constantly improving......each version better and faster...it's strictly (for me) a skill set thing.

    No idea how long it would take me, to say:

    "oh yea, they moved it..pull this!"
    Maybe a month....:D :D :D
     
  28. jeff

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    I'm a manual lover too. I stopped buying Ferraris when the 458 came out. Also stopped buying GT3 Porsches when they went to PDK. As an aside, Porsche may bring back the manual in the GT3 next year. But getting back to your question about the '"ask." It's possible that buyers shy away from the F1 because of the repair cost. I've seen dealers ask anywhere between $25K-$30K to replace an F1. This could be one reason why manual Ferraris demand more money on the used market?
     
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