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2005 FERRARI 575 SuperAmerica #339 Salvage title

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  1. synchro

    synchro F1 Veteran

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    Did anyone see this?
    Looks serious for such a low mileage SA

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130199964279


    Vehicle Description

    AS IS - NO WARRANTY

    You are bidding on a 2005 Ferrari 575 SUPERAMERICA . This car HAS DAMAGE ON THE PASS SIDE DOOR FENDER ROCKER AND QUARTER PANEL . This car has a salvage title and is being sold as is. This car did not come with any of the books. For questions please contact -------------------------------BLONDI B @ CUSTOMS UNLIMITED at 757-572-1094. We would be happy to help you with all your Ferrari needs.

    Description 2005 FERRARI 575 SuperAmerica #339

    Title: SALVAGE SUPERAMERICA 575 FERRARI

    Mileage: 1,058 miles

    Location: VIRGINIA BEACH .VA

    Vehicle Information
    VIN: ZFFGT61A250145419

    Warranty: No

    Vehicle Title: Salvage

    Condition: Used

    For Sale By: Dealer


    Features
    Body type: Convertible Engine: 12 Cylinder Exterior Color: Black

    Transmission: Manual Fuel type: Gasoline Interior Color: Black


    Options
    Leather seats CD player Convertible

    Anti-lock brakes Driver airbag Passenger airbag

    Side airbags Air conditioning Cruise control

    Power locks Power windows Power seats


     
  2. 134282

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    Though limited in production, the Superamerica, like the Enzo, Challenge Stradale, 430 Scuderia, etc., is not a numbered model. That plaque says "Limited Production 559" as do all of the plaques on all of the Superamericas built. Until all Superamerica serial numbers are known - and only until total Superamerica production is truly known - can the 339th unit be specified.
     
  3. SonomaRik

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    #3 SonomaRik, Mar 4, 2008
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    a few things:

    1. I believe you are correct about the number of editions, but couldn't they also be numbered anyway?, what would numbering the edition have to do with the final/n-th copy? OR, is that a traditional thing not to number a production model?

    2. I believe after enlarging the pic that it says, '539' but can't tell, it might be using the squared version of the '3' and not the rounded version.

    3. Stay away from this car, as the rotating glass will never probably seat correctly: I mean, Ferrari can't even get the 456 windows after a 'fix' to seat fully.

    thanks
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  4. synchro

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    Good catch, the original advertizer must have mis-read the production total of 559.

    While the Barchetta had a numbered plate on the car console (USA cars) like 123/448, 440/448, etc, to show the sequence number out of the 448 total produced,
    the SA never had this individual sequence numbering.
     
  5. vnttg

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    I spoke to the gentleman named Blondi last week regarding this car. He told me that he knew of an auction next week for this one. So what he would do is to bid on the car and then share the profit of the highest bidder on his Ebay listing. I passed.
     
  6. 134282

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    Ferrari, in the past, has numbered some of its limited production models, i.e., F50, 550 Barchetta, 355 Serie Fiorano, etc. Lately, Ferrari hasn't been doing that (i.e., Enzo, CS, 430 Scuderia, Superamerica), except with the 612 Sessanta.

    While the picture looks like it could be "539", it's definitely 559 - the lighting and poor photo quality makes it seem otherwise. The official total production for the Superamerica is 559.
     
  7. SonomaRik

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    #7 SonomaRik, Mar 6, 2008
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    I believe you, however, as a matter of point from the latest Cavallino:
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  8. 134282

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    With all due respect to Cavallino, I don't think the people who make that list are the same people who compile the excruciatingly detailed information you see in their articles - it's not called the "575M Superamerica", and that's not exactly an esoteric bit of information. As for questioning whether or not 559 is the unofficial total production for the Superamerica, I can certainly identify with that - since Ferrari has a penchant for making more examples of limited production models than they officially decree (i.e., Enzo, 550 Barchetta, F50, etc.). But the official, published number is 559 - what does Cavallino list for F40s, F50s, Enzos, 550 Barchettas, et cetera...?
     
  9. ddemuro

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    $100 says Ferrari stopped individually numbering the vehicles because they started outpacing their stated production runs.
     
  10. opus10583

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    "Give that man a woman in the balcony." (Groucho?)
     
  11. synchro

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    I wonder what the car sold for.

    BTW, I thought eBay did not allow sales of "information about things" only actual items....then again, Meg Whitman doesn't pull in a gazillion $ a year by swatting dubious ads.


    Agreed.
    The SA's that I have seen in the flesh and in photos have a badge on the passenger's side listing the 559 number. (all USA cars, not sure about UK, etc.)
    The Barchetta had several more than their total production number due to "design studies", pre-production units and the like and I'll bet there were those for teh SA too.
     
  12. SonomaRik

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    #12 SonomaRik, Mar 10, 2008
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    I am not saying Cavallino is gospel: but it has better numbers for me to use since Keith Bluemel has more ready, continued access to Ferrari papers etc. than most of us [don't know your background, but from what I see, you DO know what you are talking about and I have found your info. to be good].

    NOW, also having said that:
    - his "(?)" offers a disclaimer [see belows disclaimer to Cavallino] supporting Ferrari's habit to exceed production stated.
    - also, I know you are a bit 'stickie' on some terms, but I find it interesting that Ferrari refers to the newest 'Superamerica'
    as a Superamerica ONLY, however. IF I had said that, how many here would know I was talking about the latest version other than context?

    A similar example is in the name "Mondial" where it can refer to five different versions of that name. 308, QV, 328, 348/Mondial T, and/or [and this is of course a BIT over the top] 500 Mondial.

    rik

    PS: STILL want the Mondial T in the 348 section [useless battle]
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    I appreciate that. Sadly, I lament to concede that mine is a base of knowledge fraught with obsession and not much professional education. It's a curse... and a gift... and a curse.

    I can definitely appreciate the disclaimer, as I believe it should denote the official number for all intents and purposes. At the editor's discretion, perhaps one day an asterisk may be placed next to those official numbers whose exactitude we know to be false.

    All of us who are, as you put it, "stickie". :) For those confused by the official but seemingly cavalier reference, it never hurts to ask - that's how I came to know much of what I know now.

    While I concur to a degree, I wouldn't put the Mondials with the 3X8s. I would have the subforums like this: Mondial (8, QV Coupe and Cab, 3.2 Coupe and Cab, t Coupe and Cab); for the competition Mondials (Pininfarina Berlinetta and Series I Competition Spyders, Series I and II Scaglietti Spyders, 750 Mondial Scaglietti Spyder, etc.), I would have them listed in a separate, competition section. I would put the 308s and 328s together; I would put the 348s together with the 355s; the 360s with the F430s; 550s with 575Ms; 365 GT4 2+2s, carburetted and injected 400s, 412s, 456s and 612s together; and, much to the chagrin of many others, I would put the 308 GT4 with the other Dinos. Lastly, I would include Ferrari's rumored latest V8 2+2 in the Mondial section. But that's just me (and I digress).
     
  14. SonomaRik

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    #14 SonomaRik, Mar 10, 2008
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    1, 2, & 3 seems to be we are of like minds.

    yes, agree on the most part...does that mean yet another Ferrari Forum, to redraw it all, not likely, we'll just have to bounce about looking/searching for some common areas between the models.

    NOW: Where does the newest 'Dino' [Or should it be Dina] be placed [I'm guessing the newest Boxter challenger for Chick's car, no matter how great]
    Shall we just start a new Model area?: "FLOODed Market Models" ;)
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    Doesn't that genealogically belong in the "OT" Maserati section?
     
  16. SonomaRik

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    :)

    not to mention a protracted FIAT secton


    don't forget the Alpha Romeo getting a boost from Ferrari engine design.

    Where is Suderia Toro Rosso to go........
     
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    Well if you guys want to get technical, then we'd also need a Fiat Dino section as well as an ASA section. :)
     
  18. SonomaRik

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    #18 SonomaRik, Mar 14, 2008
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    :)
    the technicalities are mind boggling, and I'm quite happy to flow with the current wind
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  19. DodgeViper01

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    Agree 100%!!
     
  20. 134282

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    No statues were ever erected in honor of people who "just went with the flow". :)
     

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