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  1. FarmerDave

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    Post a picture of the Diorama... you're subscribed now so you have no excuses!
     
  2. BigTex

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    No camera...you guys think I kid you, but poverty is a deadly serious thing!

    Hold on, I'll turn it over...you used to find these occasionally with Lilliput Toys.....a mail order firm...

    BRUMM Auto Story AS18 #0163/1500

    Ferrari 330P4
    Nino Vaccarella
    Targa Florio 1967

    It must have been on sale! LOL!

    Like Mr. G., I guess I got it years ago because I thought it was a beautiful machine.....see, it's a slippery slope!

    They didn't know it was a P3/4 either!
     
  3. Tspringer

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    How would the Daytona have been? Was the route all twisty switchbacks and no room to run or would the Daytona have had opportunities to stretch its legs?

    Who is going next year?




    Terry
     
  4. Napolis

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    Moi.
     
  5. malcolmb

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    Terry: There is room to run at Siracusa, the first day on the historic course through the farmland, and up Mt Peligrino. On the other hand it would be a handful in the little villages. Still, I wouldnt hestate to take a Daytona on this run, I was a little surprised there wasnt one.The 275 was perfect for this outing, light enough for the towns, fast enough for the straights. The extra power of the Daytona would not have been a big benifit since we were lost 50% of the time....What was the issue with your car not running correctly a few weeks ago? If you want the details of what to do for next year I would be happy to oblige.
     
  6. donv

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    What are the entry requirements? Can any stock Daytona or 275 run?

     
  7. WILLIAM H

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    I thought the Historic Targa was only open to Vintage cars. I'd love to have 1 of my 512s over there :)

    I heard Ferrari theft in Italy is pretty bad & bad in most of Europe as well.

    Is that true ?
     
  8. Napolis

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    Yes.
     
  9. Napolis

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    I heard Ferrari theft in Italy is pretty bad & bad in most of Europe as well.

    Is that true ?

    Not at this event.
     
  10. BigTex

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    Uh....it's an ISLAND!

    Where are they gonna go??????

    That's funny about your MO #s....of course they'd accept that real Italian paint stencil, over any FOREIGN credentials! ;)
     
  11. Albert V8

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    #161 Albert V8, Jun 16, 2006
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    We had 6 Police Outriders Full Time escorting us.

    They would block roads and generally make sure we had no worries. They even stopped if any of us were on the side of the road, make sure everything was sweet.

    Not that it was ever needed, the Sicilian people were fantastic!!!
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  12. malcolmb

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    The FIA website lists the cars by make, model and year which are eleigible, pperhaps the Giro di Sicilia does too, I have forgotten. I recall that all ferraris thruogh the 1973 daytona are eligible. I am certain that essentially current models like you 512 with cushy none-smelly ride, air conditioning and probably cassette players are definitely not eligible. They accept cars first by those that actually ran at the time it was a race[I mean the actual car, not a model], then those that could have run. There was room for another handful of cars so if you want to go, fill in the form. here is what I learned regarding how to do it, it is my experience only so others may want to chime in. Fill in the form from the website. i had my tailor Enzo help with the parts I couldnt understand. the two issues were the FIVA credentials and the required third party liability insurance required in EU countries. I sent the money to France, got the FIVA temporary certificate, they were supposed to inspect the car at the event. i saw a car with FIVA inspector on it but as far as I know they never looked at the car. he may have just stayed in the bar. Probably moot anyway there are new rules, see Keith Martins mag for details. The liability insurance was another issue, I eventually found hagerty who agreed to write it through their UK office. My normal insurance covered the car and excess liability the same as if it were here as long as I had the "green card" insurance.You can buy this anywhere in the EU, probably at the airport next to the espresso bar but it was a pain to arrange from here. Cost was negligible. I flew the car to milan and used Martin Button from Cosdel to arrange the transportation and customs work. I highly recommend him, he knows the ropes and if there is trouble can probably fix it.All of this went without a hitch. I bought tickets on the ferry from genova to Palermo online, i didnt do it but suggest a suite as you are on the boat for 20 hours and a balcony from which you can sip Vino as the mederteranean slips by would have been nice. The food on the ship was better than expected. Of course most of the competitors are also there so it was fun.There is a bar.I wanted to drive after the event and we left Palermo at around 7:00 monday morning, were at the ferry in massina by nine, crossed the water and were on the autostrada in Southern italy by 9:00. I was stunned by the effenciancy of this operation, we were probably just lucky. We howled up the autostada for two days, dropped the car at the warehouse for return shipping and caught the plane back to catania for a few days of non-car vacation time, then back to San Diego. My car was perfect when it arrived in milan, I get it back tonight[customs in LA has been using it as a training excersize, we think]. It ran flawlessly the entire trip of about 2500 kilometers, we averaged 60 KPH for the time the magellan was connected, autostrada and touring mostly, not used on the rally. I too was told my ca would be stolen in Sicilia. I drove and parked wherever, did not lock it or roll up the windows and it was not touched. as far as I know there were no incidents. I did not feel that it was at risk anywhere. When we drove through the small cities old men stood by the route all day and saluted when the ferraris came by. In the Plaza where the checkpoints often were[we actually found several of them] the people thrust flowers and fruit into the cars, and in the Piazza at Vittoria they gave us wine, flowers and a book about the region.They are immensly proud of Ferrari, and of the race that was the glory of Sicilia in its time. I got the feeling that they were protecting my car, not coveting it. Naive maybe, but it worked for me.Just do it.
     
  13. BigTex

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    That's a beautiful read, MB.....

    I am sure that is the facts of the situation......thanks!
     
  14. donv

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    Thanks, Malcolm! That is a great writeup.
     
  15. amenasce

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    I heard that too about Italy . In France its not a problem .
     
  16. Albert V8

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    Other than meeting so many great people, this has to be the highlight of the trip for me.

    Sad that i caught Jim on a cool down lap, mind you, i probably wouldn't have been able to get so close :)

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6860220012836207278

    Thanks for sharing your car with us Jim!
     
  17. BigTex

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    Dude...THAT's a highlight alright!

    Thanks for making and sharing that clip.........I personally have been watching a long time, to see that machine run!
     
  18. Maranello Guy

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    WOW , where did you get it ????? Is it 1/18 ?
     
  19. michael platzer

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    jim - let me ask one more question about 76145:

    as you said, the body looks more like a 328 and the vin is in the range of the gtb turbo (the 2 litre version of the 328). the vin plate also says "GTB Turbo". whats the difference between vacarella´s car and the cars built between 1986-88 ? as far as i know there were only 308 pcs. of the GTB Turbo built.
     
  20. Napolis

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    The records are in Europe with the car. Next time I head over I'll look them over.

    Best
     
  21. morcal

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    208 turbo was released in two versions: first one based on the 308 body, just a NACA duct on the side and other external small details. The V8 , 2 liter engine was boosted via 3K turbocharger but without charge air cooling. Second version released months later was based on the latest 328 body ( including interiors ), engine was refined , upgraded with IHI turbo and charge air cooler.
     
  22. jimpo1

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    It is 1/18, I bought it a few years ago. It was made by Jouef Evolution.
     
  23. Napolis

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    Thanks for info.!!
     
  24. Simon

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    The turbo car based on the 328 body was simply called the GTB or GTS Turbo. Only the car based on the 308 body used the 208 nomenclature.

     
  25. C'one

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    Ah,bella Sicilia!!
     

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