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2008 Enzo + ?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari' started by icemanbops, Oct 9, 2008.

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  1. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Thanks for the clarification Mike and congratulations with the car!

    Are you saying tool is a tool?
     
  2. joe sackey

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    Thanks for the detailed clarification Marcel.
     
  3. ClassicFerrari

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    Man, you were not joking when you said business has been crazy! :D

    Enjoy the car and stick around here. It would be great to see pics! Of the Veyron too.

    Best,
     
  4. F430Modena

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    Nice Bought the 401 Enzo Ehehe

    I hope one day see that car in swiss roads :D

    Regards
     
  5. modena

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    Please don't! The majority of people here know that you just want to share your experience.
     
  6. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Congratulations on both the Enzo and Veyron.

    It amazes me that some people come and pollute what started as a great thread by posting negative comments without knowing the full story.
     
  7. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Mike, I hope you'll post pictures, and I hope you'll continue posting. I have a question, if you'll indulge me. If all of the components on the car are brand new, is it possible that Ferrari equipped this Enzo with the new F1 Superfast transmission? I think that would be interesting, and would be yet another example of why this car is different from the rest.
     
  8. Baasha

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    Congrats on the Enzo! Wow! Having 2 Enzos must be freakin awesome!! And to top it off, a Veyron as well. Definitely post some pictures of all three when you get a chance. As for the haters, just ignore them.

    Marcel stated this car was crashed in CA and the 'driver was killed'?!? Was this the Steffan Eriksson Enzo that was crashed on PCH?? He didn't die if I remember correctly? Anyway, now the car is fully rebuilt and in the best color, black! :D

    Mike, enjoy the cars in good health mate!
     
  9. BAKY

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    #59 BAKY, Oct 11, 2008
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    DONT START ON ME NOW :)

    I WUZ JUS BROWZIN THA BORED WILE MA WIFE WUS MILKIN THE COWZ....I JUS CALL'EM LIK I SEE'EM....

    LET ME GO HOOK UP THE WAGON SO I CAN ENJOY THE NICE DAY! LOL.

    ***CAN SOMEONE PLEASE POST ONE OF THOSE "OWNED" CARDS FOR SSNISTER**
     
  10. ClassicFerrari

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    No it wasnt the PCH car. If I remember correctly it was a gentleman who wrecked it near his home and did die unfortunatly. Not sure if it hit a tree or something. Near Monterey?

    Sorry for my poor memory but all the sad info about that crash is on this site somewhere.

    EDIT: I wasnt too far off. I just found this link http://www.ferrarifaqs.com/another-ferrari-enzo-crash-one-victim-involved.html
     
  11. SSNISTR

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    So can someone please explain how if the car that was rebuilt and has the same VIN how it has become a "2008"? If you say buy a '69 Camaro that was wrecked, and totally replace it all, but keep the VIN it is still a '69. If anything you think you'd want it to still be a 2004. Won't it be hard to sell a "2008" Enzo when the time comes? Not being a dik, just wondering how this is possible....
     
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  12. TOOLFAN

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    #62 TOOLFAN, Oct 11, 2008
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    OK. I'm sure some are waiting for my response, well here goes. First off I meant you or car no disrespect and to think I did is rather odd. I did not call the car anything negative, nor would I. I personally think car is a very cool piece of history. I was sent those photos by the "original" owner sometime ago, and many of the assembly photos were posted on online at car sale sites. I didn't post the letter because I believe that to be over the line. I know the story of the car from a friend of mine who works in Italy, I will not share the story of the car because that is not my place I simply talked about the cars rebuild process. Its odd that some of the very same people asking me questions about the car are now turning around and sending me emails or posting negative statements about me. Talk about being bipolar. So I would like publicly apologize for offending you and I will not respond to any of other statements as I believe fighting online to not only be immature but idiotic. Negativity in this place will only create more negativity. Once again I am sorry for hurting your feelings if I did, that was not my hope or intent in anyway.


    Have a good day
     
  13. 134282

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    It's a tragic story. And the picture I have of the Enzo engulfed in flames is too gruesome to post. From what I understand, Gary was Laguna Seca having a good time. He left there and headed home. His wife was at home waiting for him. On the way home, he had a heart attack - hence the crash. He never made it home to his wife. If this isn't the correct story, then I apologize; but it's the story I heard.


    Here's the short of it. A person buys an Enzo in 2002, '03 or '04. Something happens to that Enzo, i.e., a crash, either immediately after taking delivery, or some time later down the road. They call the factory to have it "repaired" (translation: **** hit the fan, can you make me another one, the check is in the mail). A new one is made, given the same serial number, and sent off to the owner. New car equals new car warranty. Warranty lasts for three years from the date of delivery - date of delivery is whenever the new car arrives. Eisenberg's car wasn't repaired - a new one was built around his serial number. Ergo, new car equals new warranty. Warranty can't end in 2011 if it's a three-year warranty on a car that was made in '03 - why'd it take five years to be delivered? That's one slow boat! So it's a new car. Date of production, with that serial number, is probably some time in '08. Since it's a US car, the check digit and the year number in the VIN have probably been changed. But aside from the serial number, it's a brand new car.
     
  14. technom3

    technom3 F1 World Champ
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    question for you guys...

    if this car already existed and was just rebuilt instead... that would still make it one of the original 400 (or so) cars... not an additional car.
     
  15. 134282

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    There's actually no question in your post, just statements. :)

    But what you're saying makes sense. The only thing that this new car shared with the first one bearing its serial number, is the serial number. It's a completely new car; an additional car. It's just replacing one that no longer exists. So in the list of Enzos that exist worldwide, the new one with the same serial number just cancels out the old one. Technically speaking, that means that there were more than 500 produced, but only about 500 remaining.
     
  16. F430Modena

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    This is my question...

    In fact we have 400 Enzos... 100 for tests , with all parts from 100 Enzos we make one... maybe this ?!?! we have 401 Oficial Enzo Runing at Roads?!?
     
  17. rossocorsa13

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    Hahaha, tricky, tricky, tricky, NNO; this made me laugh. Haha. Perhaps I am a strange person. I just love illogical weirdness that makes sense. :)

    To Mike:

    Congrats, sir, on being a part of history with the best of them. With great care I would say that the previous owner would be proud to see his old car renewed for the enjoyment of a fellow enthusiast and, even better, for his family for generations to come. Don't ever sell it.

    Enjoy her in good health, and best wishes to you and yours.

    Matt
     
  18. AlexO91

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    This is mental, purchasing an Enzo and a Veyron in the same day, now THAT living the dream. Up most respect to you, congrats and have fun with them.
     
  19. DM18

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    Fantastic car. Very happy for you to get a brand new black Enzo. Killer
     
  20. ingegnere

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    #70 ingegnere, Oct 11, 2008
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    Would it be possible to maintain the six digit sequential number (134952) while changing the model year code (10th digit) from 3 (2003) to 8?

    This would result in new VIN with the 9th (check) and 10th (MY) digits changed, while keeping the sequential or serial number unchanged.

    In any case, congratulations to Iceman and also Forza to the other Iceman, Kimi, and Felipe for tonight's race!
     
  21. Napolis

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    #71 Napolis, Oct 11, 2008
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    The car is not a 2008. The vin# legally defines the model cars year. The 2008 is the date the car was manufactured and the date as NOO points out the Warranty begins.

    Different countries obviously have different rules about registration. As Mike points out where he lives DMV accepts date of manufacture. In the US (NY) they don't.

    Take P 4/5 for example. NY DMV considers her a 2003 Ferrari. As she was manufactured (Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina) in 2006 both Pininfarina and Ferrari list her as a 2006 in their records.

    Best
     
  22. ingegnere

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    I missed that part of Mike's post, thanks.

    OK!






    Sorry, was inspired by Henny Youngman!
     
  23. farbox

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    Iceman, congrats on your two new purchases!

    As an observation, a lot of times in typing on the forums, all tonality and nuances are lost, therefore genuine questions, valid comments, and jokes, irony etc fly out of the window on reading, so all the above might be misunderstood, as accusations, insults etc....

    The story of your car is certainly unique, and all of us here, as enthusiasts, who will argue endlessly regarding the merits of one type of bolt/screw etc over another, will obviously have endless questions regarding every facet of the car, the history, the repairs, and the current status etc. Some will have an informed opinion, others not. Even those with informed opinions, might not be correct, due to local laws, loopholes etc etc. Most of the comments are really questions in disguise, and only you can shed more light on the matter, since you are the one that did the work.

    So long story short, please dont be upset becuase of some of the comments. We appreciate your contribution here, and wish you well. Discussions will take place and we welcome (demand ;-))your additional input to whatever degree you wish.
    My 2 cents here...
    Enjoy your cars and keep posting here!
     
  24. texasmr2

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    x1000!!
     
  25. charliebronson

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    #75 charliebronson, Oct 11, 2008
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    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!!!!!


    Pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    -Peter Oh
     

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