2009 F430 Challenge car

I just paid 210 for a new one. But for used ones, dan is correct 160-180. Street cars are not a good comparision for 360C or 430C

There's two years left for 430. 2011 both 430 and 458

 

But who's going to shell out big money to race in an uncompetitive car against the 458C in 2011?

 

I guess it's a question of what big money is. Point is that 160-180 is a used 430ch price now. Yes you can buy a street car much cheaper. If your asking what a 430C will be worth next year? Don't know but a good 360Ch with areo mods is 90-100k, and hasn't moved in about 4 years. I expect Good 430C prices will be over 150 as elligible cars next year.

Problem is that if you want one they are pretty rare. And most guys running the series keep two.

430C values can swing 80 grand on condition and state of the brakes. I passed on a crappy one for 120 (which needed 35K) I decided to buy a new one at 210 bc I can run races in the next two years starting with a new car and (hopefully) lessen cost/problems issues later.

Also, no one is that sure how available the 458 will be at the start of next season.

 

I don't know about US market specifically, but now a days very good condition 430C is not that difficult to find at reasonably good prices. As for 360C with aero kit, my team mate just recently sold his super nice example with hotted up engine with spare parts for $80K to a Japanese buyer. I'm keeping my 360C because I'm quite attached to it. If I were to sell my 430C, modified to almost GT3 spec, I'd be quite happy with a $225K offer.

No one knows what a particular car will sell for. Given the right circumstance, he can very well get $225K for this 430C. For me I don't see the rationale of paying a premium for a car that is uncompetitive in 12 months time. I'd rather just buy a reasonably good condition 430C to race for 1 year, then sell it and pony up for a 458 in 2011. In fact this is the dilemma I am faced with right now for GT3 Asia series. Shall I stick with my 430 now and have a uncompetitive 2010 year against Lambo LP-560 GT3 and possible Audi R8 LMS GT3 entries, or shall I jump ship and write a check for the better car for 2010, then switch back to 458 GT3 in 2011.

Oh by the way, you have a beautiful Miura.

 

You are incorrect.
360 and 430 challenge cars have VIN numbers, the only difference is that a sequence of "zeros" is put into the VIN to designate that the car can never be road registered, it gets flagged by the computer systems in place in registration departments.

 

"You are missing the point. This car is for the 2010 North American Challenge Series. "


You are missing a really important aspect of the value of the car, see my post, above, about 430C eligibility. I recently bought a new 430C and have no interest in the Challenge series.

 

Rob

I agree. You didn't call him a liar. Sorry. Maybe I'm quicker off the start than even you?

the 430C for 120 was the same one at 129. I heard it sold to a really good guy. He will probably have to spend 30K on it and may still have a deal.

Ok. Now this racer has to go to bed bc we have an ice race tomorrow in Finland, I mean Houston.

 

The link that Rob provided for the $129,000 challenge car was one that I was selling. It just sold to an individual in Florida for $115,000. Great deal. There are mechanical needs that were clearly listed and he had a third PPI done on the car. He'll need to add approx. $22k-$29k depending on where he has the work done but he'll have a nicely sorted car ready to race for $137k-$144. A very happy customer.

I have access to a brand new 2009 challenge car with 0 hours and 0 miles for $225k so this one with 10 hours is clearly over priced at $220k. $200k is tops in my opinion.
Ron

 

like others pointed out already, they do have a VIN, and it's at least stamped into the chassis under the passenger seat. The car should have accompaning papers as well. It should read like this: ZFFEX63X000xxxxxx, the last 6 digits reflect the Serial Number.

Matthias Urban
www.vinbook.com

 

correct...........mine does

 

and shows what Serial Number?

 

118522

 

and the 3 zeros reflect its status for non registration

 

ah, the Melbourne Motor Show Car! Thank, you, Sloane!

Matthias

 

Sorry to correct you, Sloane,

but outside of the US, all VIN show the 9th to 11th digit as a Zero, has nothing to do, if the car has got registered or not. In the US you do have a mathematical check-digit-system what you do not have in other countries. The first pages of my Book "The Ferrari Serial Number Manual 1947 to 2007 - The Raab Files revisited" gives a complete introduction to this, but if out off stock (they sure will have some at FML) or you do already have other utilities to kill flys, Edvar van Daalen explains the composition of a VIN very well on his website: http://red-headed.com/index2.html.

Best

Matthias

 

didnt know that..cheers

well my info is incorrect, the registration department in Aust and in particular Tasmania reckon that becuase of the "zero's" the VIN is not complete, thanks for clarifying

bg

 

Christopher,

on eBay again, still no Serial Number?

Best

Matthias

 

EBAY has trouble accepting the VIN of the Challenge Cars, if my memory serves me...it can be provided in the description though.

Also, NO titles for Challenge Cars....Bill of Sale only....no registration fees either