If you think Vettel is Not at fault why has he apologized and taken full responsibility for the incident ?
Vettel aquaplaned of the road, Button was just in an unfortunate place and got taken out. What other few more people? He overtook Liuzzi, who then turned in too early and lost his front wing on Vettels rear tire. How exactly is that Vettels fault, he was on the racing line. If this happened and he took Alonso or Massa out from the lead in Monza, same circumstances, yes I'd be disappointed but what are you going to do? he hit a patch of water, over-corrected and crashed.
Because he was concentrating too much on the back end of Button, when he realised he was already too close to the braking point, he moved over, hit the water and the crash occurred. Ofcourse he'd feel responsible, he wasn't focusing where he should be...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp8tTb-_Y-E you brake at ~80 meters. Vettel lost control ~100 meters. Like I said, he wasn't aware he was as close to the braking zone as he already was.
Yes that does look crazy. But he does need to mature up he has a lot of talent just needs to apply the right way
Because it's the right thing to do. It's called "sportsmanship". Accidents happen. Just because you have an accident doesn't mean you can't apologise for causing it. Vettel hit Button in the rain. Big freaking deal. Too bad for Button.. but that's racing. I'm frankly tired about we judge people for how they apologise or don't apologise for racing incidents. Let's let them race and stop the political correctness already!
Vettel is involved in way too many incedents. When do you think he should be punished? How many people does he have to take out of races or force them to the pits before he punished?
I love good overtaking maneuvers as much as any one else does.But this was poorly thought out by Vettel
It looks like he went to pass on the outside, caught some water then got all out of whack. Racing incident related to the weather conditions. That said, I agree that he is involved in FAR too many accidents of late, and it seems like he's so hell bent on getting ahead of Webber in the WDC points that he's attempting a ton of higher-risk moves. I'm fine with aggressive driving, but he needs to have a better sense of what's going on around him. You can't just charge ahead ignorant of what's going on.
There is a fine line between Political correctness and gentlemanly behavior. I tend to think that this was a racing incident caused by an aggressive move on a changing track and that Vettle should not have been sanctioned. It was good form for him to apologize though. BTW It was close enough that I can easily see why others see it as a punishable offense. I just think that the fewer rules and rulings the better. Let 'em race whenever possible and keep the lawyers away.
Agreed on all points except the Webber one. This race was quite beneficial to Webber because his point lead over Vettel is quite substantial now. Horner and others will very shortly realize that their best chance of a WDC is through Webber. That, even if it's not publicly or privately stated, can be something which is very important to a WDC run. This will be most important in how race strategy plays out.
Derr, that MAKEs it his fault, and if he accepted responsibility then good on him, he's on his way to learning something
that's the real point, when he slammed into Button and then came out with a new nose who didn't think he was going to drop the red mist and do stupid stuff ??!! He's done it time and again, he gets overly aggressive instead of making the best of bad situation
Sadly true and he doesn't seem to learn. Didn't he torpedo Webber in the rain of Fuji behind the pace car (IIRC?)? And had another near miss at the USGP in his first year? Those were rookie mistakes, but he doesn't seem to have learned from them. The attack and the crash on Button today looked eerily like Turkey against Webber.
Nigel Mansell was adjudicating and he has more credentials than anyone here, he only called for a drive through ...... ask Nige for his reasons
Our Nigel. When did he become a paragon of cool judgement and reason? I must be thinking of some other fellow.
I was just waiting for the cricketts to come out after moretti's comment on Nigel. Not that I disagree with moretti, but knowing how little sympathy Nigel enjoys on here. PS: I was a huge Nigel fan while he was racing, but it seems I'm in a minority with that sentiment.
the accident in Fuji (?) was a combination of LH acelerating and weaving behind the safety car and Vettel not paying attention again and him slamming into the rear of Webber which I think was more like today's accident, he was focusing too much on Button's rear instead of the track conditions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiXcgXRbyo&feature=related
great win for Lewis. Once again he's proven he's worth every penny and is IMO the best driver on the grid. Hope Mclaren can scoop up more points at monza. They'll need everything they can get before we head back to more red bull friendly tracks. Vettel's accident with Button definitely didn't seem like his fault, but I can see the penalty as justified as he destroyed button's race and mclaren's chance to gain valuable constructor's points. Felt bad for Button I would have loved to see another Mclaren 1-2!
Mansell and the three other stewards collectively called for a drive through - Mansell could well have been outvoted 3-1.
