2011 NFL DRAFT

Houston was so stupid, to win the last game.

 

I don't really see Newton as being a dominant QB in the NFL. More like another Vince Young. I'm not sure he actually is ready for the NFL (in his head), he has only played in Div 1 for a year, although obviously is a great talent.

Luck electing to return to Stanford is beyond stupid, IMO. Whether there is a lockout or not, there will almost certainly be limits on compensation early in a players career for 2012 and beyond. Unless he only does this for fun and doesn't need the money he probably threw away millions of dollars.

 

No sophomore *QB* has ever left early and amounted to much, at least none that I am aware of. I would have stayed in school also if I was him, but that's just me.
Luck will make his money no matter when or where he goes, I don't think I would have wanted to go to Carolina, I don't think the owner will build a team around him, I mean, Richardson let Peppers go, how dumb was that?

 

PS - if you declare early just for the money, then you probably should re-think your competitive attitude.
I mean, NONE of us are in that position, but would you be happy with a lot of money on a losing franchise, or with almost as much money but on a better franchise?

I know most will say 'mo money', but none of us have the experience of being in the position of being drafted into the NFL, so we really can't identify.

I look at Cam Newton and see J'Marcus Russell - a man among boys in COLLEGE, but he's gonna be toast in the NFL.
We'll see.

 

More than likely the difference between being drafted #1 in 2011 and #1 in 2012 will be a significant difference. One of the owners main goals of this game of chicken is to limit the amount paid to unproven players. These days a #1 pick can be assured of many millions of dollars before he even suits up. Owners want that to be a figure more in line with the pay scale of say, 10-15 years ago.

That does not mean they will make it up with higher salaries later. I don't see the logic that you might make $3M/year your first five years and are great, here is $20M per annum for the next five. It will be more like...$3M first five years and now get $12M a year for the next five. For the players drafted this year where higher salaries are possible it will be say $7M for first five years and still get "only" $12M for the next five years.

For that matter, there is nothing that says Luck will not go the way of Ty Detmer. Win the Heisman his junior year, have a mediocre senior year and then was drafted in the ninth round. All Luck has to do is have a mid-season slump, or an injury, and his stock will fall faster than the resale of a new Jaguar.

Strike while the iron is hot, for Luck it can only cool off.

 

Fairley (Auburn) seems to be the front-runner #1 overall selection. Any thoughts to this? He's a beast no doubt. Not sure what front-office/personnel evaluators may think of his behavior & such (ie. isolated incidents or actual pattern of behavior).

Luck (Stanford) should've gone pro', I can't even believe I'm saying this. I mean it from a payday point of view. Obviously, developmentally another season at Stanford would be good for him (or just about any redshirt soph. QB). But w/ Harbaugh leaving & likely taking his coordinators/staff, a lot of uncertainty creeps in. Not to mention, he'd likely be sitting at least a season or perhaps 2 seasons anyways in the NFL.

I'm sure Elway would L-O-V-E to deep'six Tebow & draft/develop Luck... at least I would, if I was in Elway's boots!

 

And you think Cam is mentally OK?
Have you read ANYTHING about that guy?
He may be a man among boys - in college, but he will have his ass handed to him in the pros. He may perform better than J'Marcus, maybe as good as Vince, but he is not a savior to any team.

And you guys, like I said, Luck isn't ready.
Most of you saw him ONLY in a bowl game and that's it.
Oh - and the scouts all raved about Ryan Leaf too.

And as far as Tebow goes, why is he so bad?
I was pretty down on him too, but he's doing fair for the PT he has.
The difference between Tim and Cam is all mental, I think Cam has the mentality of a 15 yr old.

There is more to the game than money, but it's obvious you guys don't see it that way, but that's fine, you are entitled to your opinions.

Oh - and if Luck has a 'bad' season and 'falls' in the draft, if he is any good at all that means he will 'fall' to a decent team, or at least one that is not 3-13.